Knock-Offs, Rip-Offs, and Just Plain UGLY!

paulv63 · Post by **paulv63** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:55 pm

So he's hacking up perfectly good guitars to put his name on them?

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:07 pm

No, Paul, he's improving them.

jwilli · Post by **jwilli** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:16 pm

If the wings on the Eagle guitar could flap, it would do us all a favor and fly away. The Shelby guitar? Good grief, what loser would buy that?
"Hey, I play a Cobra on stage!"
Yeah but you play a moron in real life.
AAaaaaagh!

melibreits · Post by **melibreits** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:15 pm

Just saw that MPV batch after a big dinner.... Now I just feel sick!

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:19 pm

Sorry, Melissa...the last thing I want to do is upset my gentle friends. I at first was outraged at the ugliness of these and the terrible build quality. (I hesitate to use the word "craftsmanship" in this context without isolating the word with both quotes and parentheses!) Now, several months later, I am mildly amused and a bit frustrated. I just look and shake my head in amazement at this guy's bullheadedness.

Most craftsmen are quite sensitive about their work. It is art in the sense that in sharing our work with others, we expose to criticism, our best efforts and deepest visions, and to do so, we must silence our fears and accept the belief that it is the best we can do. This implies that unless our work is our best, we risk being exposed as lazy or charlatans.

So craftsmen work for years and sometimes decades perfecting their craft and making their work as beautiful as is possible, so that they may share it in clear conscience.

Then someone like this comes along, and when anyone (and there have been many) suggests that there's a learning curve to be adhered to, with respect to issues of design and craftsmanship, and that perhaps a bit of patient research and woodshedding needs to go on before his work is ready for public consumption, ignores this and worse, by spouting a cynicism and insisting that it's only about money anyway.

Sort of a slap in the face if we do care, and the source of my initial outrage, although it's taken me months of pondering to work this out.

Anyway, a bit of tea and toast and the sympathy of an attentive husband, should put things right.

melibreits · Post by **melibreits** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:06 pm

Paul, I think "upset" might be too strong a word for my reaction here, but I think that guy is sadly deluding himself if he thinks anyone will pay real money for one of his hideous creations.... Although someone MIGHT want to pay him to get rid of those ugly things! Those guitars are really bad art....they look like something a seventh-grader might attempt in shop class--although maybe a kid could make something look better, LOL! It just makes me appreciate the GOOD guitars all the more....

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:39 pm

Yeah, I know, Melissa. Makes me appreciate our wonderful Rickenbackers all the more, too.

And I mourn the lovely Gretsches which gave their beauty to his chop shop.

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:55 am

Well, at least I only need my diaper changed! I think he needs a bit more work than that...... and I've got just the guy in mind.......

Mi..mi..mi..mi..mi.........

wayang · Post by **wayang** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:58 am

Seems like every few days of scouring the posts on the Forum I spot yet another great band name...maybe not one I'd like to use personally, but much more memorable and evocative than most of the names being used in the biz...

And just now I encountered the fabulous "Koreans With Chutzpa"...I'd go stand in line to check them out based on their name alone...

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:18 am

It's sort of the Far East Version of "NWA", "KWC".

Too close to "KFC" for consumption, IMO.

wayang · Post by **wayang** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:15 am

Give the consumers some credit, JJ...nobody confuses "NWA" with "NBA", do they?

Uh, oh...I may have gone to the well once too often with that one...

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:01 am

A big Double SF HAR to that one, Dane!!!

(HAR=Hairless And Rollingonthefloorlaughing)

wayang · Post by **wayang** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:27 am

Yes, yes...it's been a most eventful day...time to get outside and pull some fresh air through a burning tube...and get mentally prepared for tonight's rehearsal.

Thanks, JJ, for....well, you know.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:35 pm

Not burning inner tube, surely, Dane?

You're welcome, for something...

melibreits · Post by **melibreits** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:58 pm

Here are a few that I think are truly awful:

http://www.daisyrock.com/images/products/butterfly/bf_ss_monarch_pop.jpg
http://www.daisyrock.com/images/products/daisy/daisy_artist_pink_pop.jpg
http://www.daisyrock.com/images/products/heartbreaker/hb_artist_red_pop.jpg

Although I can imagine using the heart-shaped one on certain songs for a certain effect.... The other two are just plain cheap and tacky-looking! What amazes me are the numerous so-called "artist" endorsements of their products on their site....

I was actually trying to find images of the acoustic guitars I saw in a chain music store at a mall several weeks back-- they were acoustics in soft pink and baby blue and they had heart-shaped soundholes--YUCK!! I can't remember what brand they were, but I was sure they HAD to be Daisy Rock.... anyway, they were absolute cheap garbage, obviously made to look "cute" to appeal to some little girl.... But I think parents would not be doing their daughters any favor by buying them something like that.... I think a kid has a better chance of developing some real talent if they have a REAL instrument that looks, sounds, and plays GOOD.... But then, I'm rather strongly biased!