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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:46 am
by johnhall
Cookies, attractive women, and pilots always get an open door here.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:04 am
by kevin
Well, I had cookies, and Annemarie isn't a pilot...
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:52 am
by bottom4
I need to learn how to fly!
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:12 pm
by kevin
Because baking is so difficult?
Personally, I'll take my attractive wife and cookies over a pilot's license any day of the week. And no, she doesn't lurk here.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:23 pm
by brammy
Thanks kevin... thats way cool.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:13 pm
by simer4001
OK John. So if I show up with cookies, an attractive woman and a pilot are you saying I'm in. Because I'm on my way.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:04 pm
by jwilli
Ben Hall typed:
"Something doesn't look right in that second half of photos..."
The Lemmy with only two pickups?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:57 pm
by rickenbrother
Cool pics Kevin. There is definitely not a shortage of RIC factory tour pics now.
Speaking of pilots, two thumbs up the pilots that just emergency landed that plane at LAX without an incident.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:09 pm
by wings012345
I think it's funny that Rics always say Made in America, but when you look at all their factory photo's they have all foreigners working in the shop. Can anyone say Outsourcing!
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:40 pm
by kevin
Jeff,
Even if the workers were foreign citizens (and I'd bet the majority of them are as American as it gets -- brown skin does not a foreigner make: my wife is 1/4 Mexican, but that was three generations back. At most, my northern European roots go back just two, and my mom -- a naturalized American citizen -- was born in Ireland. Does that make me less American than my wife? Or is my wife a foreigner because of her Mexican roots? Personally, I think any such comparison is bogus), seeing as to how the factory is located in Santa Ana, California, and all the work is done at that factory, the word "outsourcing" simply cannot apply.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:41 am
by wings012345
Outsourcing can occur in Alaska. Do you know what outsourcing is? I'm in Philly and my place outsources at least 100 jobs to foreigners. that means, they hire foreigners thru and agency,they come from their country and stay here on a temp basis. Companies do this for one reason, to save $$. Has nothing to do with brown skin, yellow or red. Has to do with paying as less as possible and stream lining so the company can stay competitive. Just go to the ric site and take the tour there. Just making an observation. i wonder if people would but these guitars if they said made in mexico. I doubt it.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:46 am
by kevin
Sorry, got my terms mixed up.
But... it's quite obvious that you're basing your opinion on the color of the skin of the people in the photos. Would you have really made that comment if 75% of the people in the photo were caucasian? And brown skin is no indicator of someone not being American, especially here in Southern California.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:17 am
by johnhall
The vast majority of our employees are U.S. citizens, either because they were born here or were naturalized. Those that are not citizens are generally working to obtain citizenship and all of them are permanent workers here with properly filed employment documents.
The ethnic makeup of our workers directly reflects that of our community- our state actually- and in addition to the Latinos you have singled out also includes a significant contingent of Asians.
We do not outsource and the typical employee has been here more that 10 years and many more than 20.
To look at a photo and say that we "have all foreigners working in the shop" is not only completely incorrect, it sounds disturbingly like racial stereotyping. They may be immigrants, like almost all American's ancestors are, but they are certainly not foreigners.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:29 am
by red_rob
The fact that the instruments are made in America doesn't guarantee quality Jeff. The fact that the company has an outstanding reputation for excellent quality and workmanship over the course of decades does.
Regardless of any workers "nationality"
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:31 am
by simer4001
Can we get back to cookies and how they can help us get in for tours? That is my real concern.