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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:19 am
by ken_swearingen
I don't want to look,act or play like Squire,as a matter of fact I'm not a huge Squire fan.I don't play a Ric because of Squire.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:25 am
by levykev
squire looks so comnfortable playing his.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:21 am
by david_schwab
I originally got a Rick because of both Squire and Sir Paul. Plus they are beautiful looking basses, and I like having something different!

I got a pretty good PM sound in the beginning with the factory flats on the bass, but I soon switched to Rotosounds, so I guess I was more of a Squire fan at the time. I even had a Maestro Bass Brassmaster!

Mostly though I tried to get more of a Ray Shulman sound... ironic since I was very anti Fender at the time!

Peter, RM1999 is the Rose Morris model 1999, which is what the 4001 bass was known as in the UK.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:16 am
by iamthebassman
Technically, RM1999 was what the 4001S was known as in the UK.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:47 am
by david_schwab
Right... I always forget the 4001S is a very different beast.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:52 am
by henny
Same goes for 4003 / 4003S in my experience, too.

Probably my imagination, brainwashed with Squire et al, 'S' basses seem to be a tad more punchier, raspier in the treble... I've played a 4003S song-to-song at a gig with my Deluxe 4003, identical pickups... sounds very different within the context of Rickenbacker sound, anyway.

It might have something to do with the neck, body, whatever.

I'd like to hear a Toaster/Hi-gain fitted all-maple 4004 Laredo... I bet that'd sound fan-bloody-tastic.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:02 am
by david_schwab
Well gluing in the neck, as opposed to the neck through design, would sound different. Just as a bolt on sounds different.

A lot of players really like the sound of bolt on necks, so much so that Chuck Rainey had Ken Smith make his signature model a bolt on.

The basses I built have set necks almost the same way a 4000 has, i.e., it's inlaid from the top and extends up to the neck pickup. I felt they might sound warmer than having the maple neck run up to the bridge. But then Ricks have maple bodies. But my set necks do sound different than my one neck through I made. I also made a bolt on, but I never finished it.

It would probably explain why my 4001 never sounded like Squire's!

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:18 am
by henny
Well gluing in the neck, as opposed to the neck through design, would sound different...


All the 'S' I've owned have been neck-thru.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:25 am
by jnbass
If I did play, its because of Roger Glover...

My Squire "look" came later.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:25 am
by rickaddict
The 70's 4001S had a set neck, the 4003S had neck through.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:29 am
by david_schwab
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:29 am
by david_schwab
OK, Jeff you answered my question as I was posting that!

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:38 am
by ken_swearingen
I first saw Paul McCartney's RM 1999 on the "Wings Over America" poster I got with the album when it first came out I think 1975? cant remember but then I had to have one ,and in 1977 I bought my first Ric.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:02 am
by iamthebassman
During it's production life there were neck-thru and set-neck 4001Ss.
Can you call Paul's 4001S a RM1999? Rose-Morris had nothing to do with it AFAIK.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:14 am
by rickaddict
I think the 60's 4001S/1999 was neck through. I'm not positive, but I think the set neck 4001S began around 1972.