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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:27 pm
by rickfan60
German and Celtic roots mixed with various latin, and greek derivatives, hardly a pure language.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:43 pm
by charlyg
I would love to trade my 87 Jetglo for that one!
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:01 pm
by rickfan60
The seller in that auction has just joined the forum. His name is Steve. We should be seeing him around as soon has his account is setup.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:11 pm
by atomic_punk
I'm surprised it hasn't sold already, frankly. You dont see many nice Ricks under 1K BIN anymore...
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:01 pm
by bobcat
Finally, honest, friendly sellers on eBay. It's a miracle!
Yeah, English is incredibly messed up as far as languages go. Imagine growing up learning Spanish (sensible and intuitive as far as languages go), and then having to learn English at age 20 or so . . . that would be horrendous. And I've met so many people who whine about the difficulty of Spanish and French and German . . . they make infinitely more sense than English, which is kind of a mish-mash of all of those plus latin and some celtic stuff with spellings randomly changed throughout the years.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:11 pm
by rickinroma
Yes Robert is right, English language is quite simple until a medium/advanced level... Afterwards, oh my God...the main difficulty of this language for us foreigners, in my opinion, is the incredible amount of idiomatic expressions and phrasal verbs with several different meanings... which might be considered an enrichment of the language, but... how can a foreigner learn all of them being sure that they may have different meaning if you are in australia or in the usa
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:44 pm
by doctorwho
I catch your drift, Francesco! Hee hee [evil laugh]

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:03 am
by wints
Ah, the wonders of the English vernacular. Indeed, spectacular...and, yes, very confusing.
I work in a place where over a 100 languages are spoken and have a lot of the people asking me questions as I speak the "English" English as they call it.
True, there are so many different meanings, and all that goes with it, and many feel badly about their ability to learn, until I point out to them, that my Spanish, French and in other cases Thai and Russian is far, far worse than their English!
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:16 am
by rickinroma
Yes, the more you learn, the more you have the feeling you will never know english perfectly..it's like those nightmares when you are not able to do or to reach or to catch something and you can't...if you know what I mean...well, I better eat something lighter for dinner LOL
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:43 am
by bob_the_bass
English may not be a "pure" language (what language is ?) but its certainly rich !
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:40 am
by rickfan60
British English has the added complication of rhyming slang. Words like "quid" and "loo" come seemingly out of nowhere because they are the rhyming parts of slang expressions.
By pure I mean fixed vowel sounds and spellings. In German, a given vowel always has the same sound so pronouncing new words is not a major task. We even screw with consonants! New English speakers must really wonder about words like "laugh" and "cough".
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:57 am
by johnhall
At the other end of English, one can easily employ arcane, abstruse argot to obfuscate interchange without recourse to colloquialisms.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:59 am
by rickfan60
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:15 pm
by rickinroma

about vowel, well...a friend of mine who's english teacher usually jokes saying that you'd need to have something in your mouth, like a potato, to pronounce english correctly LOL
For our "neolatin" ears, english speaking countries people sound this way when they talk
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:20 pm
by thinneckrick
WoW ! All those big words are plum confusin . LOL By the way Thats northern MI. Hillbilly English LOL