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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:24 am
by cheyenne
"The revealing science of god" off of Keys to Acsension is very good, I love his tone and the production of that CD set.

"Heart of the sunrise" is awsome.

"Perpetual Change" (studio version).

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:36 am
by loendmaestro
Big Glover fan here! Check out the bass solo in "Pictures Of Home"!

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:58 am
by grayk
Cheers Chris will do. I might not be a fan of a particular band but I am always interested in hearing good players and nice bass parts, Roundabout being a real great example of a fantastic bass part.

Bill I took a listen to the MP3 of Roundabout played by Miguel on his website. He can obviously play a bit, and has more or less got it down note for note. However how irritating it was to hear the huge amounts of fret buzz going on! How he lives with that CS set up like that I dont know? Great sounding bass except the buzz.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:36 am
by delberthot
I have also just began learning to play with a pick after playing fingerstyle for the past 19 years. One song I found really useful to learn was 'south side of the sky' from fragile. Am in the process of getting "Tempus Fugit" from Drama - pretty easy if you play it using the open 'e' string as the root note but its very tricky playing it an octave above

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:58 am
by jwr2
a little distortion and bass will mask the fret buzz ... fret buzz is part of the Geddy/Squire sound but if you have a clean sound with fret buzz it is annoying but with the proper amount of distortion and bass the fret buzz adds character ... listen to live at Leeds Entwistle seems to have the ability to have a huge fret buzz on one note and next to nothing on another because of his attack ...

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:04 am
by dswp
Is it just me,,, or can you hear (in the background) an over dubbed, second bass, on the original Roundabout???

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:44 am
by henny
Best Squire ric sound comes from "Survivor" and "Astral Traveller" - both played on his 21-fret 1970 4001.

High gain sounds so much better.

A ZOOMING bassline comes from "No Opportunity Necessary..." - It's all scales, but man, can he play scales.

So simple yet technically genius.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:53 am
by jwr2
I agree Squire's 70 4001 has a great tone ... the horseshoe pickup can be problematic ... the high gain for my money is better ...

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:15 am
by jon
Regarding the second bass part, I seem to remember reading somewhere that CS had actually doubled the part on guitar. Strange, but if BB played mellotron on America, I suppose some other instrument crossovers may have happened in Yes.

Out of interest, a question to those who've got a CS 4001 - how different is it in terms of playability/sound to, say, a 4003?

Cheers

Jon

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:04 am
by bassduke49
In the interview on the Squire video that was recorded in 1991 (I think), Squire mentions that the Roundabout line was duplicated with a Gibson acoustic bass to provide a little more bottom. Yikes!

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:56 am
by revolver323
I haven't listened to the Roundabout in some time, but I'd swear there is second bass overdubbed. Listen at the end of every four bars of the main bass line, behind the verses. If it's not CS doing a little pull-off run down there, it's Steve Howe. I also seem to recall Chris or Steve trying to simulate this live, but not getting it quite as fast. The bass line on "Yours is No Disgrace" is doubled on guitar or six string bass an octave higher than the bass, I'm sure. Playing these parts and singing at the same time is challenging, but I managed to do it in "the day" by playing on automatic pilot and thinking about the singing.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:09 am
by rickfan60
Yes, I agree. The fills seem to have a different presence in the mix. At times it sounds like two basses. I have always assumed that he dubbed it.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:43 am
by david_schwab
Roy Wood ... he is a guitarist who also plays bass...


Hey, Roy Wood! The Move, Electric Light Orchestra and Wizzard!

Dressed like a tree and played a guitar that looked like a shovel!

See Jeff, I knew you were OK, even if you hate active basses! ;)

You also just dated yourself! (Me? I'm going to be 48 in 11 days!)

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:46 am
by david_schwab
There is a guitar doubling the bass on the main riff in Roundabout. I seem to think I read it was Howe playing a Tele...

I saw CS use the 8-string live on this back in the day...

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:55 am
by iamthebassman
Squire doubled the bass part on a Gibson f-hole acoustic guitar.