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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:17 pm
by wim
I'd like to know what happened between :

"It was then photographed for publicity and marketing purposes of the new model, and then disappeared."

and

" I bought the instrument from the bass player of Sham 69."

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:34 pm
by leftyguitars
New old stock is just that, once owned or used it becomes used but still an original piece, re-issue is a new piece made to look or sound like an original piece.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:47 pm
by ken_swearingen
Re-issue can refer to new or used but yes it is made to resemble the original.

Mark, was speaking of Bobs, pickup calling it a NOS horseshoe, no its a re-issue horseshoe.Its still a re-issue even though its used.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:33 am
by henny
I figured some of the very early horsehoes fitted in the 80s were NOS pickups from the 60s, with magnetised shoes, etc... that's all. Image

Then again I can't claim to be a horseshoe expert.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:23 am
by ken_swearingen
I didn't think you knew what NOS meant my mistake thats exactly what it means.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:27 am
by bottom4
Like the one in my 85 V63. I guess prior to it leaving the factory it could be considered NOS as long as it came out of a box stuck in a corner of the warehouse from stock from back in the day. Not sure if that's the case on mine or if it is a re-issue. Guess we'll never know!
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:13 am
by atomic_punk
Am I wrong in assuming that in '84-85, they were still selling the 'shoe as a replacement part?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:17 am
by marc61
Here's some NOS:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4713&item=7369770366

I paid high, but NOS is just another term for "it's gonna cost ya".

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:27 am
by ojobob2
WHOA! thats a lot of money for tuners that well.....aint very good

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:13 am
by david_schwab
New old stock is just that, once owned or used it becomes used but still an original piece, re-issue is a new piece made to look or sound like an original piece.


No, that's just used! NOS is something that's still in the original box, never opened, that has been lying around on a shelf somewhere ever since it was new.

That's why it's "new" old stock. Otherwise it's just used.

So a new old stock horseshoe is one that was sitting at the factory that was never used, but is an original old part and not a reissue.

I bought a NOS Gibson Sidewinder pickup once. Was packaged as if it had just come from the factory.... even though they hadn't made them in years. Was from some music store that had it ever since, and never sold it, and was going out of business.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:22 am
by leftyguitars
??? That is exactly what I said! New old stock is new old stock! Once it has been used it is "used" but still an original piece. Re-issue is re-issue!

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:42 am
by ken_swearingen
You said Re-issue is a NEW piece made tolook or sound like a original piece. It can be used?Look at your post.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:08 am
by henny
So, Is it an SB? Or one of a variant of V63 prototypes dubbed "SB" unofficially? I'll bet Yes.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:41 am
by chefothefuture
You know there is another thread on the subject of the horseshoes....
I remember some salesman at the time the Bs came out stating that Rickenbacker had "found" some original parts....
The first generation of the v63s had magnetic shoes that
looked like the late 60s shoes but the bobbins were fiber and not PC board stuff like the bobbins from 68 to 72.

As for the Grover Tuners-
Wish I stepped up quick enough. They're great tuners IF you work out the POP-OFF feature. I usually drill and tap
for screws if the pins cannot be re-swedged.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:14 am
by dswp
Marc, you beat me to the Grovers.

I came so close to buying them.....