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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:54 am
by nattiep
Well considering I'm somewhat sick of Rush (I've learned everything from "Rush" to "Hold Your Fire" with random tunes up to Feedback) Maiden was a nice change. I like metal (early metal), and Steve is amazing.

If I had to get a Fender it would have to have a maple fretboard. Those are the expensive american models.. with one type of MIM P/J. I'd prefer a J, but I'll take what I can get. I've actually thought about building a Steve Sig model.. warmoth lake placid blue body, BA2, SD 1/4 P pickup and a wine colored mirror pickguard. BUT I'm picky about the name on the headstock. I want it there. And Fender doesn't sell extra necks. Do the allparts necks come with the Fender decals? If not I'd settle for a P/J.

I've only learned a couple tunes from "Killers". My dad taught me "Murders in the Rue Morgue" and I taught myself "Wrathchild" the other day. I've learned more stuff from "Iron Maiden". Title track, Charlotte the Harlot, Running Free, The Phantom of the Opera.

I'm in an instrumental mood. I was thinking about either "Transylvania" or "Losfer Words" today. Maybe switch and do "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner". Not sure though... need more batteries for my CD player first.

I've read that P bass necks are harder to get around on. Is that true?

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:56 am
by shinynewtoy
Big, but not impossible. Me? Selling my Spector to get a GL Jazz.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:09 pm
by sabbath_of_bass
They are bigger. Iv realized this haha. The Jazz isnt bad at all tho. Mine has a p and j pickup. I like it. Its kind of kool. It'll be awhile till I get a real jazz or P bass tho. I would want one of the older ones. I dont care for the new ones.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:59 pm
by rickenbrother
To my ears, in some of the earlier Iron Maiden recordings, Harris's bass sounds like a Rick with flatwounds.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:28 pm
by phlemmy
the production on the first 3 LPs really lent itself to Steve's crisp tone.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:39 pm
by nattiep
I'm impressed with the metallic sound Steve gets with flats. Great sound. If that's what a Rick with flats sounds like with flats, then I'm gonna try some. Gotta get some that won't wreak my 4001's neck anymore. The rounds on it are giving it a forward bow. I need to give a special set of instructions to the repairman next time I bring it into the local shop.

I just learned "Rime of the Ancient Mariner". Played though it once, and my step dad said "That was pretty good, Nat." He never gives me compliments. He even popped in my room when I was trying "The Trooper" with two fingers. It can be done. Steve plays really light, but REALLY LOUD! I cranked my amp up to 11 and played it with a gentle tap. My hand locked up near the end though. Still, better than before.

I love how he throws in the little fills. Guitars are doing chords, he sticks to the root note, then BOOM, impressive fill. He sticks to little boxes, but it's hitting the notes in the correct order, and not having every fill sound the same.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:44 pm
by green_us90
If you want flats, suggest you try Thomastik Infeld Jazz flats part number JF344. I have these on 3 of my basses and they are a bright sounding, extremely low tention, extremely high quality flatwound string. Steve ad the Dudepit should have some to sell you. I bought 2 of the three sets off of him via ebay.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:50 pm
by bobcat
Hahaha, Iron Maiden: the band that you can't help but like, even if it's just so you are able to say, "Yeah, "Number of the Beast" was a high point for the Maiden . . ." to all your indie-obsessed friends.

I'm not a huge fan of them per se, but man, are they some freaking talented musicians. I may have to pick up some albums just for the sake of having them . . . considering flats vary widely, tonewise (as do rounds), some flats may give you that sounds, and some will NEVER give you that sound. Personally, I really liked the RS77 flats that I played (Steve Harris' signature strings are a version of the RS77's), and I would have bought them again, but for the fact that the E died very quickly (within a day), and I found the joy that are DR Hi-Beams.

On a side note . . . sick of Rush? BLASPHEMY!!! Just kidding, but seriously though, when you begin to get bored of something, stop, and then go back to it later. Otherwise, you'll tire permanently, and we wouldn't want that.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:15 pm
by phlemmy
^

i've been sick of rush since 1986. Image

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:17 pm
by incubus2432
....or whenever the first time it was that I heard them.

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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:22 am
by nattiep
So just want to take a break. I'll still listen to them, but I can hum Geddy's moves on a song I've never heard before. He's too predictable now. Image

Ok, low tension flats sounds great. If they can give me that metallic twang that Steve gets I'll try them in a heart beat.


I learned "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" last night.. I get tired about 4 minutes in.. and it's a 13 minute song. Should I stick with it, or learn to play it slow and speed up every now and then?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:27 am
by phlemmy
stick with it. it's a relatively easy song overall. in the spoken word part he does a few odd chords. fun fun fun.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:32 am
by atomic_punk
You should stick with it just so you don't get tired 4 minutes into it. That's not good... Image
Remember, Steve Harris and Geddy Lee do that stuff for 2-3 hours a night on tour.
Us mere club-mortals do it for 3-4 hours on Friday and Saturday nights! Not as well, mind you....

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:40 pm
by bobcat
I believe the day I get sick of Rush will be the day I die. Actually, probably not even then. The trick is to moderate your intake. However, if you disliked them from day one, there's no hope for you.

". . . . He's dead, Jim."

Or alternately, "You have no chance to survive make your time!! Ha ha ha!!"

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:14 pm
by nattiep
Sorry with the "Sick of Rush" thing. I just learned every good tune and left random others. It bothers me playing the same 11 songs every day. So I moved on to maiden.

Steve impresses me with the crazy movement for hours on end. Geddy's fast, but he's different. I've played through the entire Different stages concert CD and took a 20 break like they did.. it wasn't that bad. With Maiden I have to stop after two or three tunes.

I'd like to do some Maiden live, but not the standard triplet Rime would be cool though. songs. I wanna do something like Wrathchild.. I dunno. BUT if the sound guy turns the bass amp up I could do the trooper.. soft, but loud. I'm talking about my uncle's band again. He said when I get back tot he states he'd let me guest on bass again.