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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 2:34 pm
by paul_yan
Owen,
Some day I'm gonna get me a white(ivory, creme, canary "yellow", whatever you call it) 4001/4003 with black binding, TRC,and pickguard but chrome hardware.That looks better to me.And actually I like an aged, yellowed white RIC bass better than the original sterile white.
Just a personal preference.
By the way, my favorite 400x players are Sir Paul, Chris Squire and Mani.
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:50 pm
by gpatt5762
And how does Geddy get this about F#*)%r's having endless thundering bottom, or whatever natter he said…
At church, I played my Precision (VRI '57) for 3 songs into the house, then the pianist called for more bass in his monitor- I oblige, and switch to my Rick (VPU-equipped 4003S)…
And at the same settings, ppl were complaining about toothaches and loose fillings!
-jkjk
Garry
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 4:34 pm
by wormdiet
With the kind of amps and studio gear Mr. Lee can afford, I'm sure he could get a rubber band to sound good!
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 6:22 pm
by 4003seagreen
True, but Geddy is all digital these days, playing his Fender thru a DI directly into the PA. During their most recent tour, there were three dryers tumbling on Geddy's side of the stage where amps should've been.
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 7:48 pm
by jwr2
Geddy uses the sans amp and has 3 signals ... one regular ... one with distortion ... one with more bass ...
The jazz bass is a good design ... the problems with Fenders is the cheap knock offs like squire, mexican etc...
I build my own hot-rodded j and p basses with 1/4 pound pickups ... they are nice instruments ...
The Rickenbacker 4000 series is a great design
Geddy seems to be of the opinion the jazz bass is bassier and fuller than the Ric Bass. I am of the opposite opinion ... my jazz basses have more treble bite and my rics are fuller. I use the newer high gain pickups without the .0047 capaciter
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 10:28 am
by leftybass
John McKelvy said:
"With the kind of amps and studio gear Mr. Lee can afford, I'm sure he could get a rubber band to sound good!"
You're right, John. And for whatever reason IMHO he has taken a step back by using a SansAmp, at least for a live application. On the last tour(Vapor Trails) I thought his sound was in the mud all night long, nearly buried in the mix...a first for me, after seeing them a dozen times since 1980; I haven't missed a tour. He needs to go back to what he used before this, The Trace Elliot system or something similar.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 10:45 am
by gregson1
I thought his sound was in the mud on the Vapor Trails album, too. Maybe he was attempting to achieve a similar tone in a live setting?! IMHO, Vapor Trails was a great collection of songs, poorly recorded and/or mixed and/or mastered. Regardless, I hope he does get back to playing Rickenbackers in the future.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 11:23 am
by ojobob2
um why does very topic on here end up on Geddy Lee?
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 11:33 am
by 4003seagreen
Because you asked why more players don't play them, and Geddy Lee is a sweet-spot for that particular question, especially since he had such a great sound with the 4001.
Regarding the last tour, YES! Geddy's sound was muddied in the mix, and I agree he doesn't get that old punch with his Fenders like he used to get with the RIC. Hopefully, someday he will come back home to the RIC
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 11:34 am
by ojobob2
who is he anyway? yeah you probasbly wanna kill me now
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 11:49 am
by leftybass
Argueably Geddy Lee did as much for Rickenbacker bass guitars in the 1970's as Chris Squire.
Both bassists did alot to bring bass to the front of the mix, and muscicians took note of it...And, frankly, it wouldn't have been the same if they had not used the 4001.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:09 pm
by wormdiet
I would argue Rush was a much more popular band than Yes. *If* I had the data on album sales, that is;) Hence, Geddy had more influence than Chris. Although both bands are to one degree or another "art rock," Rush's stuff is a lot more accessible to most people. To push an analogy into the Stupid zone, Rush would be the Leonardo da Vinci of rock music, Yes would be the Jackson Pollock. And modern MTV bands would be the Thomas Kinkades.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:16 pm
by leftybass
Argueably Geddy Lee did as much for Rickenbacker bass guitars in the 1970's as Chris Squire.
Both bassists did alot to bring bass to the front of the mix, and muscicians took note of it...And, frankly, it wouldn't have been the same if they had not used the 4001.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:18 pm
by leftybass
Sorry, I didn't think the 1st post went through...
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:20 pm
by ojobob2
hmmm..... i dont think Chris squire is a very good bassist