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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:19 pm
by rhampshire
I don't see what the big deal is, Jeff.

Don't like the mute or ROS? Don't use em! Don't like the pickup cover? Take it off! Don't like the bridge pickup cap? Take it out!

BTW I never use the mute, the ROS, or the cap either. All of my basses have RI horseshoe pickups, so the cover would not bother me.

I'm just saying that there are ways around the features you don't like rather than getting rid of them. If the 4003 lost those features, to me, it wouldn't be a Rick anymore...

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:20 pm
by ojobob2
eh? pretty weird if you ask me. this subject has been done to death here, but IMHO why would you want to cut the bass out on.... a bass? Just one more switch to worry about i dont get it at all.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:23 pm
by ojobob2
eh? pretty weird if you ask me. this subject has been done to death here, but IMHO why would you want to cut the bass out on.... a bass? Just one more switch to worry about i dont get it at all.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:36 pm
by edski
Personally I'd not change my perfectly stock 4001...first of all, with enough watts the treble PU sounds fine (I'll admit with RW's it might not be great...the bridge by itself with flats is a great sound). With both pickups running you can dial in a lot of great tones. Image

Still...I see why folks would like the non-capped sound, after playing one of Andy Winter's basses a few months back. So I look at this as a nice additional feature. But not really earth shattering.

Troubles me that they used a push/pull on one of the tone pots...I would have rather seen, from my engineering view, a toggle switch. The durability of those push pots worries me. That's one of the reasons I gambled and got the Laredo (when I had never seen a 4004 in the flesh) over a new J Bass with the S-1 switch.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:41 pm
by johnhall
You won't have any trouble with the switch- it's something special, not like the ones you see at StewMac, for instance.

If you have no use for the feature, more power to you. Keep the switch in and nobody will even know it's there.

But at least now you have the option, it doesn't cost you anything, and it has no effect otherwise on the instrument.

And there's still more coming.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:45 pm
by green_us90
I'm hoping all the cap features etc are in the pot- or something to that effect. I'd like retrofit my 4003- sometimes the 4003 pickups could REALLY use that bass cap cut.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:53 pm
by edski
John Hall said:
And there's still more coming.


Image Intriguing!

I think my tendency is to leave good intruments alone. Things like Fenders I end up modifying. Image

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:15 pm
by jwr2
perhaps I was too negative ... for those who like the vintage capacitor sound this is cool ... for me it is an un-needed feature ... at best a curiosity ... but it doesn't hinder my playing in any way ...

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:26 pm
by jps
I GUESSED IT CORRECTLY!!! YEAH! Image

I think it is a great feature that provides tonal options. If you don't like it, very easy, don't use it.

I can't wait to see what else is up John's sleeve. Hopefully the new bridge for the 4000 series.

Let's see now, a MG 4003 with walnut wings, vintage cap switch, VP (I wish that included the horseshoe pickup along with the toaster), new bridge (hopefully), this is sounding real nice so far!

Can I send my '04 4003FL to RIC and have walnut wings put on it? Yeah, I wish!

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:02 pm
by maplered
That sounds really cool. I'm definitely interested. I will be purchasing at least one new 4003 this year.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:05 pm
by henny
Oh no, no no no no no no, Ric... No....

S1 for Rics, no no no.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:16 pm
by green_us90
It's a lot better than S1, nothing close to it actually.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:21 pm
by ken_swearingen
Very cool! great Idea Rickenbacker!

It makes the 4003 a more versatile instrument.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:24 pm
by jps
It is nothing at all like an S1 switch. In reality it is a time machine switch!

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:58 pm
by jason_brown
My biggest beef with the S1 switch is that the knobs themselves are different. This looks like a good idea to me though. I hope the bass I have on order comes equipped with it.