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Sean, while I love a lot of that stuff too, the Pistols were one of the first, with the Ramones, and you gotta respect that.... When I first heard them, it was like the first time I heard Appetite for Destruction, it was like, WOW.

The first three punk albums I bought in '77 were the Pistols 'Never Mind The ********', the Ramones 'Rocket To Russia', and the Dead Boys 'Young, Loud And Snotty'. They were all meant to be played loud!

Before the year was out, my tastes shifted and I bought Elvis Costello 'My Aim Is True' and the Jam 'In The City'. I still listen to this music on a regular basis.

man, don't even get me started on my appetite for destruction rant!

This month has been full of interesting revelations for me...including the fact that I'm a month younger than Bill Maher and John Lydon. It's all starting to make sense to me now...

In the mid seventies I was still completely enamored with the materialism of musical 'chops', and way into the 'prog' bands of the time...it was a rude shock for people like me to be confronted by the musical/social revolution that we now call Punk. My initial reaction was to consider the punks as "wankers who couldn't play"...over time, and with more exposure to the politics and philosophy behind the 'movement', I began to realize that a lot of the musicians I had been revering as if they were gods were in fact "wankers who could play"...

My opinion of 'Johnny Rotten' made the full transition from disgust to respect the night I saw him perform with PIL at Red Rocks...that band, the show, and Mr. Lydon just blew me away. It's always a good feeling when a part of your mind that was closed suddenly opens up...

And now, on to the 'retort' portion of this post:

"NEVER TRUST A HIPPIE."...

Ouch, Ronn...that smarts! I know what you're getting at, though...but I'd have to say I've met plenty of PUNKS I'd never trust, either.

Just for the record: gimme hippies and punks over WHITE MEN IN BUSINESS SUITS any day...

"Just for the record: gimme hippies and punks over WHITE MEN IN BUSINESS SUITS any day..."

Don't generalize too much there big guy. Some of us resemble that remark. I know I do from time to time.

To me, clothes don't matter... if i wear jeans and t-shirts (or sweaters) most of the time, it doesn't mean a guy in a smart suit cannot be my friend. Same goes for tastes in music, or reading, or any kind of tastes. I trust the ones who are worth it in my opinion, whatever they may wear or listen to. I may be a bit biased against some hippies cause the ones i met weren't nice people, but i actually have nothing against them in general...
In any case - happy B-day, mr Lydon!

Yeah, you're right Brian...I got stung by Ronn's remark and passed the sting along...sorry, bro'.

But here's my question for you (as I have seen a picture of your younger 'persona'): are you a Business Man who used to dress like a Hippie, or a Hippie who now (from time to time) has to dress like a Business Man? There's a big difference in my book...

Sheena: we should be able to have friends of every sort, depending on what they're really like as people and without regard for external appearances.

Having said that, what makes us refer to a business man's uniform as a 'smart' suit? A guy in a suit selling used cars is not 'smarter' than you or me...

Yeah Dane, a usual play upon words... what is a better compliment for a lady: "You look smart" or "You are smart"?
I just meant a nice, fashionable (and perhaps not a cheap one) suit. I also don't mind what my friend does in his life. Should he be a writer, a musician, a lawyer, an office clerk, a shop assistant, a bricklayer, etc, etc, should he be my age or several decades older/several years younger - if he's a good guy, i trust him... if he's not (in my opinion), i don't.

Hmmm I am still a musician at heart Dane if that sort of answers your question. Besides I suspect that you have a fairly clear idea what I am all about by now. That's why we get along so well.

Indeed...that more than answers my question, you crazy beatnik!

Crazy hippies...too much touchy feely on this thread about threads...DOWN WITH THE SUITS!

signed:

The Dungarees
(did I spell that korectly?)

Well...DOWN WITH THE PANTS, anyway...

A bit off, perhaps... have you already checked your ear, Dane?

My 'good' ear or my 'bad' ear?