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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:27 am
by longhouse
Orange Amps are great. I like their crunch and bite more than any Marshall -BUT- they are one trick ponies. They could be your sonic Nirvana if you like their sound; otherwise you should find something with more versatility.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:18 am
by firstbassman
My only experience with Tech 21 was with the Spider II 30. It was pretty good. Comes with four pre-sets. Decent price for the wattage. It did have the annoying habit though of always turning on with the Echo effect on.
I agree with Gerry, the Fender 25R is excellent. Great value.
[PS: I wish I could get to design an amp with a simple and logical user interface.]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:19 am
by jingle_jangle
I thought the Spider II 30 was a Line 6 product. I've got one on my office, and it doesn't say "Tech 21" anywhere on it...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:26 am
by firstbassman
You mean Paul you never heard of the special edition very rare Tech 21 Spider? It's three and a half times better than the Line 6! (Get it?)
Sorry. Hey, Tech 21, Line 6, they both have numbers, right? We all make mistakes. ("...got one ON my office...")
I have a SansAmp for my bass. That's from Tech 21, correct?
Must have had that on the brain.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:27 pm
by jingle_jangle
Mark, it was a typo. And I was genuinely wondering myself if Tech 21 might've made a Spider, so no sarcasm was intended.

We all do make mistakes...

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:24 am
by wmthor
I have a Fender 25R, a Vox Pathfinder and a Traynor YCV20WR. The Fender has been in the back of the closet ever since I got the Pathfinder. Of course, the Traynor is the amp that I use about 90% of the time.

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:48 am
by longhouse
I love my Traynor...

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:56 am
by jps
Pick up a '60s or early '70s Fender Princeton Reverb, great chimey sounding all tube amp.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:39 pm
by studiotwosession
>>Pick up a '60s or early '70s Fender Princeton Reverb, great chimey sounding all tube amp.<<

Fantastic advice. I played several guitars for years, in clubs and recordings, including Ric 6 and 12s and the Princeton was great (I didn't even have a reverb.) Ideal for rehearsals and clubs. Loud but not obnoxious to the point of having band members or sound techs want to kill you. And of course easy to carry around. Now I have two Princeton Reverbs, a 65 and 66.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:43 pm
by jps
The Princeton Reverbs sound even better than the Princetons as they have an extra gain stage before the phase inverter from the second half of the 12AX7 used in the reverb recovery section.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:55 pm
by ozover50
Huh? If I knew what you just said, Jeff...... Can I have it in technical terms next time, please? Image

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:03 pm
by jps
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Ask Charlie the Tube Tech to explain it to you! Image

Or I'll show you when you get to Cleveburg.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:17 pm
by ozover50
I think Chrlie might have opted out - we haven't heard from him in ages!

I don't think I need to know too much about phase inversion, reverb recovery and them 'rectumfier' thingies - think I'll leave that to you guys.....

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:46 am
by steve_hershberger
Howard - Jeff is just saying that Princeton Reverbs sound better than the Princeton (non-reverb) amps. ;-)

Seriously, it's because of the extra circuitry used in the reverb models. Anyway, in general, the non-reverb models usually sound cleaner farther up the volume dial as compared to the Princeton Reverbs - so, you might start getting a real nice "just breaking up" tone on a PR in the 5-7 range on its volume knob; and the regular Princeton might stay clean all the way up to 10.

Sorry, it's early in the morning, hope this makes sense.

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:48 pm
by tony_carey
"the phase inverter from the second half of the 12AX7 used in the reverb recovery section"

Is that the bit next to the defribulator Jeff?