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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:45 am
by shinynewtoy
While I'll agree definite improvements have been made in the last 30 years, I'll put the tone of my un-capped '77 up against anyone's new bass!!!
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:12 am
by jwr2
ya ... my old 73 4001 was an excellent bass ... but the cap had to go and those damn backward tarnished tuners had to go too ... and no way I would ever try to adjust the truss rods ... and the ric-o-sound was shorted out as well ...
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:14 pm
by rickfan63
I think the cap on my '76 4001 had already been disconnected when I bought it used in '77. It had a nice full tone to it. I really regret that I sold that bass now. It was a real workhorse.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:09 pm
by mrm0to
152 for a jack plate?!?!?!
I've got to believe it's cheaper to have someone *make* one out of a piece of scrap.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:30 am
by jwr2
$177 for a TRC??? that is a $5 piece of plastic ...
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:15 am
by rictified
If anyone cares here, Leo sold Fender in late 1964, a 65 is considered a transition piece. That's when the slide began although they reached their POS pinnicle during the 70's, that being said there are still some good ones from that era.
This guy knew what he was doing, there is big money in old Ric parts, I for one would rather have reverse tuners for ex. on a 4001 than modern tuners even if they are a little worn. There is something about playing and owning an all original 4001 although I think the new 4003's kill them in tone and quality.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:28 am
by tomg
What amazes me is that those POS later 70's Fenders are now popular and commanding stupid, stupid money.
A local music store had a '77 or '78 PBass for sale. I forget the price, but I do remember that it sounded just OK and weighed a ton.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:40 am
by jwr2
I really really really hate the old 70s tuners ... they look like **** even when they were new and they freakin turn backwards ... the new ones have real chrome and they turn the right direction ...
ya the 70s just weren't that good ...
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:44 am
by dwade
The reality of the numbers for this particular auction....
1175.40 Gross Income.
Less $35.26 Ebay Listing Fees
Less $21.65 Final Value Fees
Less $34.08 Paypal Fees (on credit card Trans)
Net before Taxes of $1,084.41 More or less.
Then theres the time he spent packing, boxing, driving to the shipping point, mailing, writing the listing, (couple hours at least) that all has a value.
Prolly broke even IMO.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:49 am
by jwr2
I would have got 2 new or used pickups and put them in the bass and made it a working bass and sold it that way ... usually when I restore a bass I put too much quality into it and I end up losing money ...
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:23 am
by rickaddict
I'da done the same thing, Jeff. But I'd feel better about losing the money than parting the bass out.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:55 am
by bobcat
"ya the 70s just weren't that good ..."
Except for music. That was great in the 70s.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:01 am
by heinpete
Jwr2: You're right about loosing some money because usually nobody can pay the passion and heart you put in your instruments "brush up" or even the 425 conversion. However I also "forwarded" my Ricks always in a better condition than I got them. For me the time playing them and the experience always was priceless.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:24 am
by jwr2
Peter ... I like your attitude ... A ric should leave you in better condition than you got it ... well unless you buy a new one ...
the 70s had some great music and some truely horrible music ... that was the ear that gave us Disco ... play that funky music white boy, brick house, Ike and Tina Turner, Jackson 5, Villiage People, Captain and toenail, abba, Bee Gees, ... arrrgghh!!! that is enough cheese to feed a third world country for a year ...
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:31 am
by shinynewtoy
Captain and Toenail!
I just fell off my chair!