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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:46 am
by chefothefuture
Pat Paulson for president!
I love the old Grovers. They're easily fixed, and when well
greased, they are very smooth. Like so many parts Rick used over time, they add an idiosyncratic air to the 4001.
Victor- that's the earliest Rick with the lower A peg placement I've seen.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:52 am
by freewheelin
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:05 am
by bassman
I've never had a problem with mine. I better go touch wood now.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:41 am
by markbass99
I have a couple of basses with "propeller" grovers and a person that was very familiar with them coming apart said that the secret to avoiding this was to make sure your bass isn't slamming around inside it's case. The side loading of the tuners causes trauma to the swaged pins and the gear "box" starts to get loose. Of course it's not hard to fix, just take them off and re-swage the pins.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:29 am
by ben_brown
These are pretty even...
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:36 am
by johnhall
Indeed, it's not hard to swage the pins properly. Certainly trauma in the case could expedite the failure but the actual source of the problem was the lack of proper swaging when Grover transferred production to Taiwan.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:55 am
by ben_brown
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:58 am
by ben_brown
Can someone post a pic of what gets swaged?
I've never seen Grover's insides...
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:18 pm
by johnhall
It's not inside, it's the corners on the underside, where each corner pin goes through the mounting plate. Rather than being nice and mashed flat, they should have a dimple as you would expect from a tapered punch.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:44 pm
by chefothefuture
I have two June '73s. One has the early A string placement, and the other has the newer placement.
