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Roy,

I think you're right, and thanks.I guess it was a "Senior Moment". Thanks again.

The listings posted here are not totally accurate Memphis is in fact the Swedish Radio Session, so technically only "For What's WorthW is only track to have never been available before. If this track is in keeping with the other Liberty stuff The Searchers did not conribute instrumentally on this track, I have to say on first hearing, whilst refreshing to have a new track by the band to discuss, it is not as good as original version in my view. Perhaps if I had heard Searchers version first my view would be different.

Is this the Steven Stills song For what it's worth which he wrote for Buffalo Springfield? I think I read somewhere sometime that Searchers used to play long live versions of this and other alikes like Southern man. Is the version on "40th" a shorter, studio take? Is it really true and documented that they allowed other musicians to play their guitars whilst with Liberty? 'Nuff said!

Einar, the junior member

I think The Searchers' version is as good as the Buffalo Springfield original although I doubt it would have been a hit in the U.K. My impression on hearing it, is the perhaps The Searchers did play guitar on it after all.

Tim

On first listen that was my impression but there is a organ in there unless my ears deceive me which was prevalent on Suzanna, that is why I made the comment, also why play on this track and not the others. As an aside were you aware that Suzanna was written and offered to Billy Fury. I think it would have been a great track for him but apparently he was not interested.

Roy

I wonder just how those Liberty recording sessions were handled. If The Searchers didn't play any instruments who did? (Clem Cattini on drums?). I didn't know "Suzanna" had been offered to Billy Fury but it may not have been what he was looking for at that point in his career.

All the hits that got away. A very good book could be written about those artists who rejected hits that later went on to be chart toppers. Not the case for Suzanna though. As far as The Searchers are concerned, "I Go To Pieces" which became a big hit for Peter and Gordon would be a prime example.

Peter
I GO To Pieces by Peter and Gordon did not make the charts at all in Britain, it made no 9 in the states, depending on which source of referennce you use. Don't often disagree with your views Peter but on this one I do not think the song would have suited The Searchers at all.

The one that really got away was She Means Nothing To Me a big hit for Cliff Richard and PHil Everly in 83 over here made no 9, this was offered to The Searchers at end of seventies but rejected. Of course you could argue that even if they had done it , it would not have done anything and sadly it is probably the case.Solitaire is a classic example, I defy anyone to tell me The Searchers version was not a patch on The Carpenters or Andy Williams,done differenlty I admit but The Searchers version was very good. I have wondered though, if all of them actually played on the record, clearly Mike Pender did vocals

Roy: I agree that "I Go To Pieces" did not really suit their style. The harmonies of Peter and Gordon were unique and The Searchers' sound may not have lifted it as high in the charts. Based on its strong melody, however, I consider that it would have had some chart success.

What I meant to say, is that this song was an example of a composition that was offered to one group but turned down only to be picked up by another who had success with it. Surely, The Searchers must have wondered how they would have done with it after hearing of Peter and Gordon's success.

You have, however, given a better example of my point with "She Means Nothing To Me." Your point with regard to "Solitaire" is also well taken. I really enjoy these "woulda, coulda, shoulda" discussions. Easy for you to say though, being the CEO of RC Productions.

well said Peter

Good afternoon everyone,

I placed my order of the Searcher's new 40th year anniversery CD on May 29th through amazon (USA). The date of release continues to be pushed back every week. They currently show it being available June 29th. Will the CD ever be available?

Thanks for your response.

Rick Doeschler

Try Play.com Rick, the album was released in uk on June 3rd

Roy,

Thank you for this information. I will give it a try.

Rick

The CD is widely available in the U.K. You could also try Key Mail Order at http://www.keymailorder.com
They have it listed at the lowest price of everyone.

Thank you Tim. I will check the site out in addition to the one Roy suggested.

Rick Doeschler