Speaker size ??

funksterman · Post by **funksterman** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:33 am

Does vary from manufacturer to manufacturer as indicated here already - It's not just about the amount of air you can push - the enclosure has so much to do with it.

I have a Gallien-Kruger head pushing GK cabs - 115RBH and 210RBH - i.e. one 15 and 2 10's both bi-amped. Best of both worlds and you can then 'tune' the balance between the two if need be.
15" cabs will ever die out.

walker · Post by **walker** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:28 am

My main set-up I'm using for rehearsal & gigging is a Hiwatt 4x12 guitar cab (not the 4x12 bass cab with the folded port in the middle.) The speakers are Celestion 85 watters and were customized by a guy in Seattle at a tiny shop called 'Around The Sound.' He replaced the paper hinges of the speakers with canvas, and made the coils deeper to accomodate low-end response. This cab CRANKS and has amazing low-end clarity that is far superior to a lot of 4x10 cabs I've tried. For me, the 10" speaker was too brittle & small sounding, and the 15" didn't quite provide the tone & punch I was looking for.

What was crucial to achieving the sound I was shooting for was the proper match between amp & cab. So as many of you have stated, I'd also agree that if you're not satisfied with your sound overall, try different heads, too. I use an SWR SM-400 with my Hiwatt. I used to use an Acoustic 2x15 cab loaded with JBL's along with the Hiwatt, but it was stolen. That was my source for the "cathedral church organ" subs. Drag that I lost that cab, but I find that the line-in solution + the mic'd 4x12 works fine for gigs and recording.

walker · Post by **walker** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:37 am

Now then... that being said, I heard some amazing things about this particular set-up:

For more info:
http://www.philjonesbass.com/Products%20page.htm

teeder · Post by **teeder** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:52 am

That looks interesting!

I've been hearing good things about 12's, but haven't tried them yet.

gearhed289 · Post by **gearhed289** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:52 am

I like 15s more for the overall tone than the low end. They have a nice snap to them, especially the old EVM15L (not 15B). The L go up to 6k. Geddy Lee's classic tone was all 15s for a LONG time. But, I also like 10s for the punch.
Having said that, I'm still amazed at the range of tones that come out of a vintage SVT 810 - including massive lows.
Folded horns are pretty dated technology for a stage rig. I leave that kind of stuff to the FOH system.
Here's my stage rig...

DSWP - is that an SVT III on top of the 410HLF cabs? I've got a friend running that rig, but the SVT III is not supposed to be run at less than 4 ohms and those are both 4 ohm cabs. Anybody else running a III at 2 ohms?

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:57 am

That being said......

I used to use this...

Now I have this...

I can't wait until THIS arrives!

gearhed289 · Post by **gearhed289** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:09 pm

Excellent choice Mr. Brown!

rikk · Post by **rikk** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:39 pm

I thought the PJB cabnet was a photoshop spoof until I went to the site. Interesting.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:31 pm

Did you see the prices on the PJB stuff?

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:13 pm

Dave - I agree on the SVT-410HLF. Nice tones but a back breaker! I don't move it more than I have to! And you have two. You have my sympathies - or, hire roadies!!

lowendbob · Post by **lowendbob** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:17 pm

How this for a back breaker?

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:24 pm

So that Ampeg cab is pushing 8 feet tall?

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:23 pm

Looks more like 10' to me since that 8X10 is 48" by itself!

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:33 pm

So does it require heavy equipment to move it around?

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:39 pm

I do believe it comes with a fork-lift!