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Bob, I think you may be going around your knee to get to your elbow. The combination of G#, B, D, and F gives us G#dim7 (also written G#o7). I choose G# as the root since the bass motion implied here is G to G# to A.

Dim7 chords can be tricky at first. Any dimished 7 chord consists of three stacked minor thirds, thus any inversion is essentially the same chord. It would be 'spelled' differently, though.

If we had B, D, F, Ab (same notes as above) it would be a Bdim7.

D, F, Ab, Cb (still the same notes) comprise a Ddim7.

This week's challenge: How would you spell Fdim7?
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Ha! I guess my rudimentary knowledge of theory is showing through. The F implied a 6th to me as I took it from the major scale. I can see now in the context of stacked minor thirds. Not sure how that happens, but I understand how it works now. Thanks.
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Am13b5! I think if I was reading a chart and I saw that i'd s**t myself out of fear!

J, Fdim7 would be spelled F-Ab-Cb-Eb.
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Yeah but, did you play the progression? It's a lot of fun to comp over and solo over as well.
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Try again, biscuit boy. Image You spelled F half dim7.
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D'oh!

That should be F-Ab-Cb-Ebb! Image
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Yes, the doubble flatts are trrickky.
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JB, I'll up the ante... what chord is this:

A C Eb F#

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My guess is:

Am6b5?

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Well I can't seem to find the answer, so here's my rationale:

A-C-Eb-Gb would be, of course Adim. But, since we've got an F#, spelling counts! F is the 6th scale degree of Am, G is the 7th.

What we have here is an A minor chord with a flatted 5th - the Eb. I am a little thrown off, however, by the F#. Wouldn't the 6th scale degree be F, not F#?

Regardless, I stand by my guess. J?
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F#o7, 1st inversion.

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Oh damn. Wasn't even thinking inversions. Ugh.
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You two are scary!
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J, what do you say we devise some sort of theory-related drinking game? You in John? Image
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I'd be on the floor in the first round!! I know zilch for theory. I do know the notes are A B C D E F and G. There are sharps and flats. That's it.
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