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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:32 am
by rickaddict
Hittin' the mind-altering substances again, Mark?!
I like your wavy Grovers.
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:37 am
by ram
I think it's just a flash back sequence on Sesame Street!!!
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:51 am
by johnallg
Unfortunately they'd clash with my strap....
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:27 pm
by kcole4001
Poor Grover, always getting a bad rap...
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:32 pm
by jwr2
are those grovers reverse or normal turning?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:44 pm
by walker
Normal. I guess it's hard to tell by looking.

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:34 pm
by rickcrazy
Let's get heretic, shall we? A few months ago I decided to replace the original but no longer reliable Grovers on my April '74 4001 with... Japanese-made copies, the kind some '70s fakers came fitted with. They're the same footprint and they're totally reliable - I know for sure they'll never come apart like 2nd version Grovers often do.
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:39 pm
by kcole4001
The wavies on my 4080 are quite solid, yet the guitar tuners are a mess. I'll post a pic of the copy Imperials I put on. They're quite solid, & I like the look.
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:44 pm
by jwr2
one thing about 70s rics that annoys me is the tuners ... they either had grovers or reverse tuners ... I prefer the modern 4003 tuners, or schaller m4 or gotoh sealed tuners ...
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:44 pm
by kcole4001
Here:

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:49 pm
by kcole4001
I like the reverse tuners, another thing that sets Ricks apart.
My wavy Grovers turn in the "normal" direction & so do the guitar tuners.
It is confusing the first moment you pick up something different & try to tune it!
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:53 pm
by kcole4001
Maybe that's why all the local Fender guys always hated my Ricks, they were put off by the reverse tuners!
I've only had compliments on my 4080 from other local players & found it quite baffling. All three play incredibly better than any Fender I've ever played.
I'm not down on Fenders, I love Strats & the look of a nicely finished Jazz.
That Cherry Sunburst 5 string J you put together Jeff was inspiring!
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:41 pm
by dswp
As they fall apart you just need a couple of spares.

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:45 pm
by johnallg
Dave, if you didn't have such a large collection of instruments I'd say you were a hoarder!!

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:47 pm
by kcole4001
Dave, you're stockpiling!
I guess mine are in really good shape. No corrosion at all, nice & shiny, but of course they're from '81, and so not very old.