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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:00 pm
by sloop_john_b
Blasphemer!
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:04 pm
by jdogric12
The only Alembic I've ever played was a 4-str bass. And it was COOL.
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:06 pm
by beatlefreak
Here's another really great A/B comparison that was posted on the RIC website forum, by forum member Brizilla. He uses a 620/12 that has high gains, then switches out the pickups for toasters. The difference will amaze you! Here's the link to the forum page:
http://www.rickenbacker.com/forum_view_thread.asp?thread_id=3530&forum=Just_Guitars&thread_name=First%20Impressions%20with%20Toasters
And here's the link to the sound file:
http://storeandserve.com/download/540169/toasties.wav.html
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:03 pm
by winston
Jason that was very informative. The 370 had a decided edge in recreating the Byrds sound IMO.
The hi-gains sounded a bit edgier.
Great playing too Jdog.
I love the sound of the Jangle Box. Steve! Based on what I just listened to you should be awfully proud of that pedal.
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:23 pm
by winston
Thanks for the link Kris. There is a huge difference in the sound after the swap took place.
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:53 pm
by j_gary
Sorry John, I just wanted to show off that I can actually spell Alembic.
I happen to hear one of their Series 12's, which allows one to split the pups similar to Rick O Sound. Very nice sound. Only problem is they cost as much as a Lemmy.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:04 am
by trancedental
Are all these with all pickups on full?
The high gains sound like they have no middle to me, with a sharper top end. I prefer the toasters, a more balanced sound across the spectrum.
I wonder how much of the difference could be dialed out by amplifier EQ settings?
Thanks for the demo!
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:14 am
by admin
Very nice work J Dog and it is good to hear your voice which adds another dimension to your personality shown here.
I suspect that this riff inspired McGuinn on She Don't Care About Time.
I like the tonality of the 360/12V64 guitar best.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:36 am
by sloop_john_b
I spoke to J briefly on the phone last night, he told me these were recorded into the Janglebox, then a preamp (forget which one!), into Mbox. Recorded with all pickups on full. He may be doing a similar thing with the bridge pickups soon, as I for one use the bridge pickup almost 100% exclusively on my 660/12.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:42 am
by jdogric12
The preamp is a Focusrite Trakmaster. Great mono pre for the price.
EDIT: Plus, I did a slight bass roll-off across all three, just to make it sound a little friendlier. And all pickups were full on, with the 5th knob right in the middle.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:14 pm
by kog
Thanks, Jason, that was a great comparison. (As was that other link to "toasties.wav".
Of course, now I HAVE to go learn "Jesu", darn you!
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:51 pm
by firstbassman
Thanks Jason! Much appreciated.
Also vote for either the 12V64 or the 370. The Higains just don't make it for this type of stuff.
Also agree that any Byrd-like stuff I only use the bridge P/Us.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:07 pm
by firstbassman
PS: I can't play the Toasties file. Says I don't have the PCM Converter CODEC. Says web link will lead me to DL file. Nope.
And MS says all CODECS are installed in Media Palyer by default.
OK . . . . .
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:23 am
by janglebox
J Dog Ñ I just got to the link this morning. Outstanding playing! Great clips and a terrific comparison. As soon as I can get cleared out from all the JB stuff I'm dealing now with, I'll be in touch.
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:28 am
by janglebox
J Dog Ñ I just got to the link this morning. Outstanding playing! Great clips and a terrific comparison. As soon as I can get cleared out from all the JB stuff I'm dealing now with, I'll be in touch.