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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:13 pm
by jamie
LOL! ...just step away from the mic and no one will get hurt.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:06 pm
by beefandbones
Yeah, actually, Mark makes a good point, even if he meant it humorously. John insisted that Yoko be right by his side at all times, and yet the rooftop concert is the *only* time post mid '68 that you don't see her right next to him. I wonder what happened?
Customarily, their live positions were Paul (L), George (C) and John (R) but the rooftop was also one of the only times (only time?) that John was in the center. I wonder if it was a ploy by the others to force his hand, or what...
It really is kind of a miracle that Yoko wasn't front and center on the rooftop!
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:35 pm
by jamie
Yoko was pretty darn close though and practically next to George. She was huddled against the chimney with Maureen Starkey, Chris Odell and Ken Mansfield.
Ken Mansfield writes about the rooftop session in his book "The Beatles, The Bible and Bodega Bay" and it includes a good rooftop shot that shows where Yoko was sitting.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:14 pm
by jcb1100
Back to "The End": Any truth to the rumour that it was Paul playing the famous solo, not Ringo?
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:39 pm
by beatlefreak
I seriously doubt it - Sounds like Ringo to me.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:54 pm
by jcb1100
I just remember hearing--I don't recall where--that it was ironic that the lads only had one recorded drum solo, and it wasn't played by their drummer. I know Paul played (plays) drums, so it seemed plausible.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:57 pm
by sloop_john_b
Based on Paul's playing on "Dear Prudence" and "Back in the USSR", I'd say that if he DID do the solo, it'd be a helluva lot more flashy - or at least make an attempt to be.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:18 pm
by beefandbones
Good point. Geoff Emerick does recall the session in his book and, although his book is a bit of a McCartney lovefest, he does say Ringo played the solo. He also mentions that it was orginially much longer and was edited.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:09 pm
by fireglo
Ringo talks about playing the solo in the Anthology DVDs.
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:12 pm
by studiotwosession
Ringo also talked about that "solo," which only became a "solo" after the guitar tracks that accompanied it were silenced in mixing, in a Goldmine issue. He said he ripped it from an Iron Butterfly track, a live one I believe, whoda thunk.
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:57 pm
by beatlefreak
It supposedly was inspired by the drum solo from In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:43 pm
by lyle_from_minneapolis
And with that, we were all instantly out of our minds.
By the way, where ARE those flashbacks they've been promising us all these years?
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:20 pm
by jcb1100
Well, that's all good enough for me. Another piece of misinformation quashed. Thanks, all.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:35 am
by studiotwosession
He said somewhere that he thought he copied it perfectly. Gotta give Ringo credit for not taking credit where credit wasn't due (or taking credit for lifting something that worked perfectly.)
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:34 am
by briank
Note that towels on the drumheads are not always seen, but date back to the earlier records; Norman Smith did it now and then, usually on snare. They used all kinds of drum muffling and dampening - sweaters, felt strips, indian blankets, Fender polish cloths, cig packs, the cover from the piano, etc. It changed a lot!
Stereo drums can (kinda) be heard when spillage to toehr mics happen in a very few places, but not typical "stereo drums" like we are used to. I'm not sure about the Glyn sessions, it is possible they tried something and didn't keep it.