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Well it only makes sense that rick players that have a low "B" on their basses are going to like a different kind of music than those who don't, as a general rule.(Although there seems to be a lot of contra bass playing in country music- go figure).

I thought The Who were the loudest band ever?

After them I think it just got out of hand after them.

Hope you ain't talking about Mr. Derek Smalls there Brian.

He is my idol and if he could ever find the stage he would blow all away!

nobody better be talkin **** about Derek Smalls. and I agree that loudness has gotten out of control. bands use it to cover up mistakes. I saw Black Stone Cherry when they opened for BLS, and they were insanely loud. but when I put my earplugs in I could hear wrong notes left and right.

Motorhead is the loudest band I've ever heard. My wife and I were second from the railing in front of Lemmy and his stack last year at the HOB, Chicago. No ear plugs = STUPID!!! Couldn't hear for 2 days. Literally. Driving to work the next day with my window down and I couldn't hear the wind or cars passing by.

ouch

Motorhead is great to see live but not to hear. Just painful without earplugs. My wife went a few years ago with me and will never go to see Lemmy again. Her loss.

I read somewhere about the worst songs/guitar solos ever and one of the songs is Manowar's called Achilles, Agony, and I cannot remember the rest of the title but apparently its a twenty seven minute song or something like that. Talk about painful...

After that show I wear earplugs at every concert now. I even wear them at band practice and gigs now. My hearing was shot before that show, but that was over the top. No pun intended. My wife loved the show. She thinks Lemmy has a great personality.

"idols worshipped around here make my skin crawl"

Like who? A lot of the "idols", especially guys like Geddy Lee, Roger Glover, and John Entwistle and such are directly responsible (along with several other guys who didn't play Rics) for the existence of metal at all.

Brian's probably thinking more along the lines of The Beatles and The Byrds, Rob.

I had one experience of an extremely loud band back in 1975: Nazareth. They had a concert scheduled at the local indoor stadium in Darmstadt (close to Frankfurt), Germany. However during their sound check, the day before the actual concert they broke some big window screen of the hall (it is not meant for rock concerts, rather for sports events). So the city authorities wanted to cancel the event, but offered another, smaller concert hall, which does only have glass bricks, no screens. So the band set up their PA there (same extent) and redirected the audience by radio and newspaper announcements. The audience had some wooden chairs provided in the back third of that hall. I sat on one when the concert began with their first song "night woman", intro on drums and bass only. That volume made the chairs move on the swinging floor planks and after I emptied my coke can I could squeeze it like rubber because of its vibrations in my hand. I was amazed, no ear plugs though those days! After the concert about 11.30 pm when I crossed the front main street I suddenly stood in bright daylight, but it was a car's headlight, breaking just 30cm in front of me. I did not hear a thing (except that 14kHz sizzle)for days! Another story later.

BTW: The bassman of Nazareth those days played a pre`73 4001FG with two slanted J-bass PUs in neck position (same luthier as Roger Glover).

"Like who? A lot of the "idols", especially guys like Geddy Lee, Roger Glover, and John Entwistle and such are directly responsible (along with several other guys who didn't play Rics) for the existence of metal at all."

Since you asked.....Geddy Lee, Chris Squire and John Entwistle specifically. It has nothing to do with whether they are great bass players, what kind of influence on music they had or anything else.....it is simply a matter of taste and Rush, The Who and Yes are bands that are, to me, unlistenable.

The only reason I even made an indirect reference is because of the comment that the guy from Manowar "blows". My taste in music is different than most here but you have never seen me post that anyone "blows". Just because I don't like the music of some players doesn't mean that I don't have respect for them or admire their talents.

Wasn't Deep Purple louder than a 747?

I met Joey DiMaio in my neighborhood when he was visiting a friend, and saw him play bass up close and personal. He's as amazing a bassist as any of the heroes listed on these boards, although he may not be in, taste terms, for everyone here. Just as even Squire and Lee don't do anything for some.

Makes sense as the division seems to be metal and progressive tastes.

This reminds me of some of the discussions I've seen concerning Dream Theater, prog lovers don't like them because of the metal content, metal lovers don't like some of the prog stuff they do. I happen to like both genres and feel like they can work well together.
I second Brian on liking a player and not necessarily liking the band they're in, this came up in the Dee Murray discussion, and also applies to a lot of bass players I like.