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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:49 am
by leftybass
The visit with Peter Fonda was in 1965, but the attempted visit by Rickenbacker to The Beatles to 'present' them with different guitars was in 1966 while in the US on tour. Paul got his Rick bass on the '65 visit, but their(Rickenbackers) next attempt in '66 was unsuccessful, according to 'lore'....YMMV....
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:46 am
by feedback
Hi Mathew..check Oliviailouks thread on Ric. forum..
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:58 am
by feedback
'cept it's a '67..Doh!
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:51 am
by karl_teten
The Fonda experience was '65 (oops!!!...lying on floor in fetal position sucking thumb..lol).
I still say they were probably tripping on acid at the '66 RIC visit. Their biggest acid year was 1967.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:31 pm
by lennon211
It would be great if Mr. Hall could weigh in here and maybe fill in the details about these guitars and their whereabouts.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:38 pm
by sloop_john_b
I could swear I saw the rounded top 325 while I was in Santa Ana for the 75th.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:30 am
by 8mileshigh
Round top 325? you learn something new everyday!
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:15 am
by 8mileshigh
Was this the one John?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:20 am
by karl_teten
White nut, early high gains. ???
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:28 am
by deaconblues
That's a full-scale solid-body guitar that the Smith book says is a prototype from early 1969. I always thought that the rounded-top 325 would look more like a mini 370.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:51 am
by blazer
"Mr. Hall Sr may have noticed that both John and George had switched to guitars with more powerful P-90 pickups by 1966. I wonder if hi-gains were developed in reaction to their switch? When asked to compare hi-gains to another brand of pickup, it seems P-90's often crop up in the conversation."
The beatles switching to playing Epiphone casino guitars came about when Paul got one and the others like the way it sounded. John Lennon also loved how sturdy an Epi Casino was all of his ricks sustained serious damage during tours. AND you can't change the fact that George still used a rounded top version of the 360/12 on stage in 1966.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:11 am
by cowboy_joe
Epiphone Casino, sturdy?
Not the way I would describe it. I've got one, and play it quite a bit, but it's fully hollow and plywood. I'd suggest the J160e is stronger--it's at least heavier. I'd put the 325 and the Casino on equal footing as "fragile" guitars--at least compared to something like a Strat, which John also had access too.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:35 am
by tennis_nick
compared to a Strat, Hummer H1's are fragile. I also have a Casino but consider it to be fairly sturdy. never got a ding on it yet...
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:27 pm
by blazer
Joseph.
The "Beatles gear" book tells about how the necks of John's ricks came off and how touring took it's toll on the guitars. But it doesn't state anything about the Casino's sustaining any damage during the 1966 world tour.
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:13 pm
by sloop_john_b
Wouter: John's second 325 wound up with a broken neck (later repaired) after he dropped it off stage. Neither his '58 325 or his 1996 sustained any sort of similar damage.
John toured with his '58 incessantly for almost four years. The Casino only saw action in 1966.