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What's the deal with this Rickenbacker-hunta?

There already are more real rickenbacker basses on earth than fake ones and like I said, a kid who is inspired to pick up a bass by seeing somebody with a Rickenfaker will most likely end up buying a real Rickenbacker.

The owner of that bass is happy with his bass. Leave him alone if he's happy with it.

Well, tell me, how would you explain the owner why you smashed his bass? Tell me, how would you explain that.

Well, for me (5'1" "long", less than 50 kgs of weight) it wouldn't be so hard to explain... i'd just pop my eyes in a "i-messed-up-but-i-am-a-good-girl" way and say, "you know, i... some big guy jumped in and broke it then ran away and i couldn't help, forgive me pleeeease..." or simply, "sorry, my ex-hubby had a similar bass, and i just... i just couldn't resist..." Eh. Of course, i'm kidding. As well as (i think) other posters in this thread. And of course i wouldn't break it. I'd put it that way: i didn't make it, therefore i think i don't have any right to break it.

Another instance of hyperbolic discourse becoming hypergolic discourse ...

There is NO justification for a "lawsuit" bass to exist. NONE! All the weasely words in the world do not justify ripping off a trademarked design.


GET OVER IT! and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

Good one Gary....

had to look it up.......

If the owner can get over his need for it to be genuine it's still the same instrument it was before Ilan came along to help him see the light.

It's the guy's personal property, he loves the instrument, hopefully he uses it to make good music, that's all that really counts.

I knew Jeff was joking and what little I know of the guy I also know he'd never damage any instrument, he's too good a guy and too good a player to do that.

Maybe fakers should be a banned topic; too many people get worked up over these things.

There is NO justification for a "lawsuit" bass to exist.

That "there's no justification for [something] to exist" phrase evokes some bad associations in me - sorry, Charly. I do understand what you mean, but the thing is - they already exist. Yes, i may not understand that attitude to "everything fake" due to cultural background, that's true. I do understand the reasons for pulling ebay auctions or restricting (so to speak) dealers' privileges for selling fakers, but when somebody just owns a fake bass (which they made with their own hands or bought for their own money) and doesn't plan to sell it - would it be right to "sue" them for that?.. Mean, one can buy it from the owner and destroy it, and that would be fine and fair. But otherwise - i think it's a case when an item is somebody else's property (which they cannot sell legally), and destroying somebody else's property doesn't seem fair to me.

It was just a joke, people.

I was not referring to smashing THIS guys bass, I am referring to the fact that a trademark is just that, it means you should not "copy" it, or support anyone who does. And, if you care at all about RIC continuing as a corp,you should be on their side in this battle,IMHO.

Because they exist means nothing.

Okay, a) i would not copy any Ric - both because it would violate their trademark and because i simply have no skills; b) i respect their policy and if i spot a faker on ebay which nobody else spotted before me, i'd post a link; c) i wouldn't buy a faker unless i'd have a chance to send it from Russia to US, to Jeff or anybody else interested, for smashing purposes (sorry Jeff, just kiddin'); but d) i would not smash it myself, be it mine (hardly possible - see point c) or somebody else's. Would that do? Or should i do something else (no offence meant, just was a bit surprised about the word "should" in that context)?

"Another instance of hyperbolic discourse becoming hypergolic discourse"...

Gary, ENGLISH please....LOL

high-performance hypertrophic hypoglycemic hyperbolae

If I remember correctly (without consulting Websters), hypergolic describes an explosive reaction of two chemicals (at least) when mixed together, right ?

that's what the dictionary said