Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:58 am
This should be the next re-issue series!
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:21 am
Ditto ditto!
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 7:21 am
The 4003 is technically a re-issue of the 60's and 70's 4001's ...
the mute, the ric-o-sound, the triangular inlays, the shape, the pickups, the plastic, the chrome, etc ... there is not too much difference between a 4001 and a 4003 ...
If you take a 4001v63 it is really a 4003 with a few cosmetic changes to look like the 1964 4001s model ... but the cut of the wood, the truss rod system etc is really more 4003 like ...
So if you buy a brand new 4003 you are getting a modernized old 1950's design ...
For instance the main differences between my 1968 4001 and a brand new 4003 are ... the cut of the wood, the checkered binding, the shape of the inlays, the pickups, the shape of the plastic pickguard, ... so if they do a re-issue of a late 60's bass it will not have the same pickups, it will not have the same cut of wood, it will not have checkered binding or full size neck inlays ... they don't build them like that any more ...
the mute, the ric-o-sound, the triangular inlays, the shape, the pickups, the plastic, the chrome, etc ... there is not too much difference between a 4001 and a 4003 ...
If you take a 4001v63 it is really a 4003 with a few cosmetic changes to look like the 1964 4001s model ... but the cut of the wood, the truss rod system etc is really more 4003 like ...
So if you buy a brand new 4003 you are getting a modernized old 1950's design ...
For instance the main differences between my 1968 4001 and a brand new 4003 are ... the cut of the wood, the checkered binding, the shape of the inlays, the pickups, the shape of the plastic pickguard, ... so if they do a re-issue of a late 60's bass it will not have the same pickups, it will not have the same cut of wood, it will not have checkered binding or full size neck inlays ... they don't build them like that any more ...
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 7:40 am
I'm afraid I have to agree with Jeff.
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 7:48 am
yeah and you cant reissue a 60's bass thats not an S model.....they wont do the inlays and binding.
Also, i bet they wouldnt do the non tilting headstock ( i like that design point on the old ones)
Also, i bet they wouldnt do the non tilting headstock ( i like that design point on the old ones)
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:46 am
Yes Andrew, its the same bass, its been for sale for a long time now, I tried it out not long after Xmas 2002 and liked it, but wasnt willing to pay the ridiculous sum being asked for it at the time. From what I gather, its a commission sale and the owner thinks he can retire on it, hence the silly price...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:12 am
I would think a more reasonable price for it would be $3000 usd
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:37 am
I emailed the seller with a few simple questions, (posted below) and he responded with a total joke of an email. I wouldn't buy from this jerk, ever.
Here is my email to him:
Nice bass...but if you are asking someone to drop $5000 on a guitar,
especially a 1967, shouldn't you provide more info? How did you get
it? Is it all original or have any parts been replaced? Does it come
with a Case? What is the serial number? Easy questions and things I
would need to know before even considering it.
Steve
Fair Questions, I thought...but here is his reply to me....
My goodness you are uppity.
At some stage this guitar has been routed for a pastry oven. Except
for the floyd rose trem' and the humbucker in the bridge, it is a
"perfect example.... 9 out of 10...".
It does indeed come with a case, UPPERCASE or lowerCASE?
Thank you for your enquiry,
Ron.
I then wrote him and told him that obviously he didn't take my questions seriously and wished him good luck at selling it.
Here is my email to him:
Nice bass...but if you are asking someone to drop $5000 on a guitar,
especially a 1967, shouldn't you provide more info? How did you get
it? Is it all original or have any parts been replaced? Does it come
with a Case? What is the serial number? Easy questions and things I
would need to know before even considering it.
Steve
Fair Questions, I thought...but here is his reply to me....
My goodness you are uppity.
At some stage this guitar has been routed for a pastry oven. Except
for the floyd rose trem' and the humbucker in the bridge, it is a
"perfect example.... 9 out of 10...".
It does indeed come with a case, UPPERCASE or lowerCASE?
Thank you for your enquiry,
Ron.
I then wrote him and told him that obviously he didn't take my questions seriously and wished him good luck at selling it.
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:44 am
ok the seller is a tool ... lower the price to $2000 usd
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:18 am
$2000 would be cool..but promise you wouldn,t convert it into a 5 string Jeff!! I agree $3000-3250 (approx 2K sterling) would be closer to a good selling price. It would be interesting to see if anyone would be tempted. If it,s still around when I get back to the U.K. around xmas I,ll have to check it out.....
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:25 am
$600 delivered from this guy if that's his attitude. Hell, it's probably an Ibanez. You sure he doesn't work for Instrument Exchange?
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:06 pm
Routed for a pastry oven! har har! you gotta admit he has a sense of humor.
He works for Instrument Exchange if it says "set neck" in his description.
He works for Instrument Exchange if it says "set neck" in his description.
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 1:32 pm
I could tell by the listing price!
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:38 pm
Here's my take on it. Its rare, its in nice shape. If it is all original, it might be worth the $$. The seller should be standing on his head to please potential buyers. $3000. - 3250. would be a steal. To swallow the price he wants, one might have to think ahead 5 - 10 years. Case in point, I once thought that $1800. was too much for a McGuinn! 
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 6:53 am
Where will we be in terms of value in 5 years?? Good question..one that we all try and predict now and then. It seems Ric is never going to reproduce these 60,s basses with the old style horseshoe and MOP inlays, so they should always have a precedent in the market. Time and time again the majority regard these as the bass on their "wish list" and with the low production numbers (compare them to 60,s Ric guitars) they have to be a good buy.. just how much now is the question. $3000-3250 is really wishful thinking... .I,d have thrown my hat in the ring at that price. Just in at The Guitar Broker, a 1961 4000, all original, very rare, and $6000.... Step forward gentlemen please.....