The "P Series" - The Players' Series

admin · Post by **admin** » Wed Jan 24, 2001 12:10 pm

Frank: Why do you think the 325 sold quickly and the Atlantis did not? The answer lies within all I said in this conversation: Because they are not known for modern guitars...
I don't want a Parker at all...I want a modern Rick, and as you see on this discussion I'm not alone. (still bidding for the Sierra on ebay)
Ah, and thanks for the "talent knob", maybe we should suggest that to RIC too...plus a "thinking knob", that some of us might need....

Frank_S · Post by **Frank_S** » Wed Jan 24, 2001 12:48 pm

Easy Peter!
I see your points guys! However, I think Rickenbacker catered to a market that exists already. The "new" Rick market hasn't presented itself as strongly. Unfortunately, there is another group of younger collectors(I'm 28) and 40-50 guys who want the old style Ricks. I
will never own a an original, I want the next best thing.
A lot of people said "We want an exact copy of what ended up in The Beatles' hands and we are willing to pay fo it!"
As soon as the smoke clears maybe you'll see some "players' guitars". I think the 650's are players' guitars. I made those comments to say "What else do you want?". Perhaps I'm not asking these questions because The market catered to me(for once) with the C series. I wasn't trying to flame anyone's "talent" either. Just showing the ridiculousness of some of the gadgets out there. I wasn't knocking Parkers either, they just represent the most technologically forward thinking company I could think of. If you want stealth tech, well, you'll have to look elsewhere right now. But somewhere Mr. Hall could be listening....

admin · Post by **admin** » Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:00 pm

I would have predicted that the 200 Series would have been a good choice for those musicians wanting a humbucking sound. The Model 250, a great slide guitar with a hot sound, is an example of an instrument that should have done well but was not accepted by the main stream.

admin · Post by **admin** » Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:31 pm

The 250 series looked a little bit 'irresolute' to me, know what I mean? A little bit Strat, a little bit Tele, P-90-like pickups...no Oscar in the Best-Guitar-Design-Category at all....

admin · Post by **admin** » Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:47 pm

Peter: I understand your characterization of the 250's image, however, this instrument has a great and full sound. Walsh of the Eagles is one artist who uses this instrument to the limit and is a great advertisement for the 200 series. To be successful, however, you first have to convince folks to give it a try and I suppose that the "look" is critical in this regard.

Frank_S · Post by **Frank_S** » Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:51 pm

I wanted to add one thing.
It took 6 years for that 1958 325 to make it as a a popular model. Perhaps we have some one twanging away the best new songs in years on a 250 in a basement somewhere.
I agree about the 200's style or lack of. Ricks are really sharp, angular guitars. That axe had a rounded "dullness" to the design.

Tracy_still_waiting_Sands · Wed Jan 24, 2001 6:08 pm

THE LAST WORD (or why I threw a '51 nocaster off the Seal Beach pier).

The model 850 was the best guitar Rickenbacker ever made. Anyone who has ever played one knows that it is the Holy Grail. A rock & roll monster. A real 'players' dream with lots of character and looks to kill. Now go find one.

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu Jan 25, 2001 1:25 pm

Okay, so let's leave the last word on this conversation to Mr Hall....

jwilli · Post by **jwilli** » Thu Jan 25, 2001 5:55 pm

A Combo 850, huh? The only people that I know who own one is John Hall and David McLaughlin (4). I hope that RIC will reissue this model one day.

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu Jan 25, 2001 6:09 pm

Yes John those Combo 850's are beautiful.

sir_andrew_of_left_coast · Fri Jan 26, 2001 12:00 pm

Hey! Someone talking about me? My ears were burning...

Actually it's a "260" that I'm twanging away on.

The next so-called "P-Series Guitar" I'd buy in a heartbeat would be something along the lines of a Combo 800.

Rod_Evans · Post by **Rod_Evans** » Fri Jan 26, 2001 2:13 pm

I'd love to see updated 325's or 350's. Make 'em like the Atlantis w/lo profile neck and mirrored or pearloid pickguard. Keep the toasters though!
Humbuckers are evil.

FATRAT · Post by **FATRAT** » Fri Jan 26, 2001 5:32 pm

here I go again, mr. know it all speaks.....
The lead guitar player in Steppenwolf used a 800 series and I think one of the guitar players in MC5 had one (kick out the jams motherf*ckers, that band remember ??) had one, but it may have been a 400-600 series and Im getting it confused....the guitar player was Fred sonic Smith he married Patty Smith and played in the P.S. group...anybody else want to know who played a Rickenbacker???

FATRAT

kennyhowes · Post by **kennyhowes** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 1:03 am

Hello all! This is my first post here.

Has everyone forgotten about RIC's non-vintage models? There's your player guitar! I have owned many Ricks, and the one which I keep going back to is an '89 330 RD/WHT which I have beat the hell out of and which now plays like a vintage guitar. Who needs a new line of guitars when one can just pick up a standard model?

My 2¢,
Kenny
http://www.kennyhowes.com

admin · Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:54 am

Kenny: Nicely put. The Model 330 has surely been the reliable mainstay for many musicians for decades.