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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:40 pm
by fatcat
More expensive all around here.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:57 pm
by bob_atherton
As Paul Marsh rightly mentioned, here in the UK we are paying 9 – 10 USD per gallon, and I don’t mind. In fact I wish that petrol was taxed even higher so long as the revenue was ploughed back into an efficient integrated public transport system, something that most of us don’t enjoy in the UK.

I personally would like to see the global cost of petrol rise to about 10 USD per gallon. Maybe then some of the ludicrous ‘must have’ domestic vehicles that appear, to me anyway, to be giving the finger to global environmental issues, will be priced off the road and the drivers ridiculed for their arrogant selfishness.

Rant over…

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:44 am
by kcole4001
But then, higher fuel costs lead to higher shipping rates for EVERYTHING, and thus higher prices for EVERYTHING, not just luxury items.

No one will absorb higher costs without passing that extra expense off on the consumer. Higher fuel costs are bad for everyone on the planet, except oil company shareholders, etc.

p.s.: We can't just sit around and wait for someone else to regulate a fix for environmental problems, we have to be responsible & do something on our own to ease the burden.
Price fixing on select items (such as fuel) is not a reasonable solution.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:20 am
by bob_atherton
"Higher fuel costs are bad for everyone on the planet, except oil company shareholders, etc."

Kevin, but if the majority of the higher prices are made up of taxes that are used in an ecological manner then the fuel companies will not benefit, if fact the reduction in fuel consumption will reduce their premium to shareholders.

IMHO if products globally cost more to ship around the world, that is great. Maybe we could start more micro economies.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:01 am
by wayang
Hi there, can't believe I'm late to this, etc., etc...

I'm steerin' clear of the politics of oil for this one, as I'm sure everyone is tired of knowing how I feel about it...

What about this angle: people don't go out and hear local bands and support local musicians because they're too busy savin' up $400 for McCartney tickets...and ya gotta pay for truckin' all that gear across the landscape somehow...

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:16 am
by bob_atherton
Dane, I think Macca should get back to his roots and play a tour of small clubs in the North of England ;-)

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:18 am
by wayang
My Gawd, Bob! Think of the parking nightmare!

(See, everything's got consequences...)

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:51 am
by fatcat
How much did you earn when the prices were thus?
(Measure of inflation)

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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:08 pm
by kcole4001
Don't trust governments to use tax money responsibly!
In Canada, the fuel taxes are supposed to be put into road maintenance & construction.
Guess what, the roads pretty much suck in my area, nothing but patches on top of patches, so where's all the extra money going?

It certainly isn't spent on fixing environmental hazards either, for example, an old mill complex site in the centre of my town which has languished for more than 20 years because no one will take the responsibility for clean up, since that would be an admission of guilt regarding all the illegal dumping from the past 100 years, when no one cared a rat's a$$ for the environment.

As far as vehicle emissions are concerned, drive behind a dump truck for a few minutes. There's more harmful **** belching out of one of these unregulated beasts than a fleet of SUV's.

In general, the people who drive luxury vehicles aren't going to be fazed by a jump in fuel costs, they can manage the extra expense quite a bit easier than, say, the working poor of our countries who really are the ones who feel every little pinch.

All I'm saying is, increased fuel costs are NOT the answer to any of these problems, but are actually playing right along with the aims of the planners of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Oil co.s used the attacks as an excuse for jacking up prices, gov.s receive a huge bonus in tax revenue. The loser is everyone else.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:10 pm
by kcole4001
And, yes, I know it's political.
Sorry, just my opinion.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:29 pm
by shamustwin
I filled up yesterday for $3.07.
The time before that I filled up for 3.49, same station.

I go to see my friend play for free (small pub). He's excellent and has a song on a grammy winning CD.

My wife and I went to see a forumite's band and they wanted $15 each at the door. Too steep, didn't go in (sorry, fellow forumite!).

I paid a bunch to see Macca, at least 30 times what it cost (my dad) for me to see the Beatles, not adjusted for inflation. I'd do it again.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:04 pm
by rictified
Jerry, what are you filling, a gallon jug or a moped?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:33 pm
by shamustwin
LOL!

I meant per gallon!

Though I remember the days of filling my '66 VW Beetle for under 5 bucks.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:38 pm
by johnallg
Yeah, but gas was 25.9 cents a gallon too!

Dane, I gotta agree!

Kevin, political or not, I agree.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:04 pm
by johnallg
Double post