Radical opinion on Barry Bonds,the new HR King

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:38 pm

>>>Anyone who understands baseball well knows that the game is about pitching, not hitting. A lot of 'exciting' runs is an indication of a ****** ball game...

Anyone who understands baseball well knows that the game is about pitching, hitting, fielding, running, throwing, and strategy. A high scoring game might be "******" on planet Dane, but here on earth it can be thrilling. So can a low scoring game. They are BOTH part of baseball which is a GREAT game.

>>>>the real reason they're selling this stuff is because we're buyin' it.

I guess by "we" you mean "somebody out there" because I sure aint bidding on the Bonds ball and I suspect you aren't either. Yes, the real reason anyone sells stuff is because someone else is willing to buy it. Its called the free market. Dane, my old friend and nemesis, please stop your moaning and groaning every time money is hinted at, its getting very tiresome.

ps: Go Yankees.

wayang · Post by **wayang** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:57 pm

Hmmm...lots of people are thrilled by ****, so point not taken. Anyone who goes to the ballpark does not necessarily understand the game, or know what's going on in general.

By 'we', I mean humans, not you or me as individuals. For example, 'we', not the blue whales, are destroying the rainforests.

ps: Go blue whales.

mgauction · Post by **mgauction** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:19 pm

The company I work for is trying to obtain the 565 ball for auction from Mark Murphy, the lucky fan. I was quoted in Sports Illustrated about 3 or so weeks ago that the Bonds ball will sell in auction for about $300,000-$500,000. Murphy is leaning toward keeping it. At sometime he will need the money for whatever reason. He can sell it for the most value now or wait and get much less. ARod (Alex Rodriguez) is right around the corner. He's about 5 years away from breaking Bonds record. That will make this 565 ball worth much less. On top of it, Bonds will most likely get indicted by the Feds over tax evasion and most likely will not make the Hall of Fame in his first ballot. That will also taint the 565 ball. Regardless of what your feelings about Bonds are, it is still a very tall order to hit one out even when you know a good pitch is coming. Mantle was good at that. There is no doubt that Bonds is the greatest HR hitter for that reason. I keep my personal feelings aside. I hate most sports teams, especially the Yankees, Kent (growing up in LA). I hold grudges against all teams, all athletes and sports fans in general.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:40 pm

>>>lots of people are thrilled by ****, so point not taken.

one man's garbage is another man's gold. Unless, of course, Dane says it's **** in which case we must all agree.

>>>Anyone who goes to the ballpark does not necessarily understand the game, or know what's going on in general.

Everyone understands and can appreciate the game on a different level depending on their experience. Thats one of the things that makes the game great. Naturally, nobody understands baseball as deeply as you, Dane.

Yankees? Did somebody mention the Yankees?

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:43 pm

From the Onion:

Destruction Of National Pastime Given Two-Minute Standing Ovation

SAN FRANCISCO—A sellout crowd rose to its feet and exploded into ecstatic cheers Tuesday night as Barry Bonds completed the downfall of America's most revered sport by hitting a thundering 435-foot shot into the left field bleachers for career home run No. 756 and tainting baseball's most beloved record.

The rest of it's here:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/destruction_of_national_pastime

mgauction · Post by **mgauction** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:52 pm

He could have only had a heroes welcome in SF. Any other city would have booed him and it would have been considered a disgrace. Good timing, Barry!

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:00 pm

mgauction · Post by **mgauction** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:15 pm

Funny!! I died laughing when I saw that, Kent!!!

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:49 pm

Dang, missed it!

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:50 pm

squirefan01 · Post by **squirefan01** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:56 am

Go Red Sox!

I read that Murphy would still owe taxes on that ball this year, even if he doesn't sell it. It's still a gain for him as far as the IRS in concerned I guess. It seems like it would be hard to keep it in that case.

Go Red Sox!

firstbassman · Post by **firstbassman** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:22 am

I agree that the game is about pitching and hitting and fielding, etc. But here is one personal observation. And I hope that this doesn't come out sounding like "those were the good old days." However the game has changed from when I was a kid.

When I was young, baseball games used to be 3 to 2 or a two-nothing shutout. If a team scored five or six runs that was considered a blow-out.

Now an average score is eight to six. And frequently teams are scoring ten or twelve runs a game. These look like (American) football scores, not baseball scores!

I'm not sure what the reason is. It's probably a lot of reasons (shorter fences, juiced balls and juiced players, expansion, etc.).

But it's not the same game anymore and I enjoy it less when teams are scoring frequently in the double digits.

And I'll be willing to wager that Koufax, Spahn, Gibson, Ford, Palmer, Seaver, etc. never gave up ten runs in a game.

wayang · Post by **wayang** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:34 am

Thanks, Mark...you seem to understand the game (and what's become of it) pretty well.

Kent, my fondest hope for you is that you'll one day learn to argue a point without getting so school-playground personal...just stick to the discussion, willya? I happen to live on the same planet as you, for one thing, and I'll thank you sincerely to cease asserting otherwise.

There, that's out of the way...I have a really funny retort to your last wild swing, but unfortunately it's unprintable, being a fast and somewhat complicated series of hand gestures...

mgauction · Post by **mgauction** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:38 am

Good points, Mark! I hate todays game. The score is like football. Baseball is now marketed as entertainment, not athletics. Its gone from a chess game to chinese checkers.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:26 am

>>>my fondest hope for you is that you'll one day learn to argue a point without getting so school-playground personal...just stick to the discussion, willya?

school-playground? perhaps.... tough nooggies, deal with it. But as for the discussion concerning baseball, I was spot on. Sorry Dane, I'm going to call you on your ******* when it falls from your lips. Unfortunately for you, thats an all too regular event. But I understand that you cant help it; its in your nature.

>>>>I happen to live on the same planet as you, for one thing, and I'll thank you sincerely to cease asserting otherwise.

You might pop in for a visit once in a while, but your core psyche is out there in deep space.