Wanna have "Clank"?

[rictified]

Early flatneck 4001's headstock's were almost flat hardly any angle at all, if you weren't careful and left a large amount of string around the tuner peg you got buzz in the nut because the string was too high.

[gearhed289]

I like Rutherford's bass playing a lot. I always thought he was much more interesting as a bass player than as a guitarist. It seems like a waste to have a guy like Stuermer (spl?) playing bass while Mike plays guitar.

And Then There Were Three = the beginning of the end....

[stanislav]

Take a look at Rutherford's doubleneck around 1:47. I heard he had a guitar and bass essentially glued together.

Losing Gabriel was really bad, losing Hackett killed the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdD6L4cKKU8&mode=related&search=

[gearhed289]

>>>I heard he had a guitar and bass essentially glued together. <<<

There's some good pics of that instrument and general info over here...
http://www.vintagebass.com/thedudepit/showthread.php?t=23765

[henry5]

I'm pretty sure that Rutherford still has his RM, or did until relatively recently. I seem to remember some tv programme in the 80s or 90s about them where he was being interviewed in the studio and there was a rack of guitars behind him; the RM was one of them IIRC.

[grayk]

Sergio, Thats the sound....fantastic ! Steve Priest and The Sweet were a great pop/rock band and they could play. Mick Tucker was a good drummer also, and visually great, they all were. A lot of our friends in the US probably dont know who The Sweet are due to their lack of success there but they were huge elsewhere. I used to be in a band with Mick Tuckers drum tech circa 91 which was well past their sell by date. He still really rated them as a great live band though. I do however think that Steve Priest was a big loss to them when he went.

[henry5]

Although I like the Steve Priest sound on that clip I have to say I personally much prefer Rutherford's sound. Steve's sound exhibits much more of the "nasal tendencies" of later 4001s which I generally like less than that of the earlier basses.

[heinpete]

...allthough it was an early 70ies 4001BG???

Seems the recording (Amp, Box, Mike, DI?) did much to the sound we hear now.

[jps]

More...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XhDHJNuyXw&mode=related&search=

Mike is playing the RM1999. There is too much focus on Peter, however, in this one.

[rickcrazy]

Hi Keith. Indeed, The Sweet were quite cool. As for Steve's 4001 in the "Turn It Down" clip, well, talk about "the instrument that moved the bass player to center stage"! No point in using a Rick if you're into making it sound like every other bass guitar around - which is why you'll never see me playing a stock modern 4003...

[henry5]

Oh I like clank, and I like that tone, but it's just a bit thin for me if we're talking ideal. I prefer Rutherford, Squire, Waters, Glover etc, clanky but a bit fuller and growlier. Although I like Foxton's Ruby and I love Lemmy's tone on everything he does. I'll take this opportunity to post an example of (IMHO) near perfect Ric tone (I know, the second time in several days!).

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ_5h0SKUSM

Peter, "later" to me is anything '72 or newer that possesses a skunk stripe, as generally I get on with them less well ....I'm just hoping my project '73 works out ok!

[Lost Coyotes]

That is cool, Shaun. Reminds me in part of Geddy's sound.

[ilan]

Jon Camp said in an interview that he switched from guitar to bass after hearing Chris Squire.

IIRC a Forumite now owns Camp's famous "Great White" Ric bass.

[johnallg]

Camp's tone in that clip is great.

Whats up with Haslam there at the beginning?! Looks like she is about to OD.

[jwr2]

60s 4001 clank ...

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/bass02a.mp3