Rolling Stones

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:50 pm

Ron Wood was a much better bass player than guitar player IMHO, put on Beckola sometime and listen to the bass, he was great on bass. Since he joined, The Stones have been very one dimensional to me and haven't recorded any ground breaking stuff except for the occasional Keith Richard tune which are almost always really good.
Jim, Hail Hail Rock n Roll was filmed about twenty years ago, I'm not trying to put Clapton down, I think he's one of the greatest living guitarist's going. I'm just saying that Chuck Berry and Keith Richard have a certain something in their playing and style that transcends their technical ability although they are both great guitarists.
I also think Sticky Fingers is one of their best, so is Exile on Main St. 12 x 5 is another favorite of mine.

winston · Post by **winston** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:43 pm

Keith is a pretty decent bass player too.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:59 pm

Yeah, he gets a good sound. Wood was killer though, he used that late 60's distorted tone on a lot of the later Jeff Beck Group stuff, especially on Beckola and could really get around on the neck. I always list him as one of my favorites.

mgauction · Post by **mgauction** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:35 pm

Keith played the bass solo on "Sympathy For The Devil" and also gigged playing bass with John Lennon in "R&R Circus" BBC show. Bob, I'm with you again -- Ron Wood played a great bass in JBG and it was completely overshadowed in the engineering of those records. Of course, Beck was the star, so........

BTW - he still has that Telecaster bass! Can you believe it! Made an offer for it but I'll never get and word. Ever heard any live JPG recordings with Stewart & Wood? I have several. Not very good quality but his bass playing is spectacular.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:25 am

I never thought sloppy was wonderful ... I liked the Stones in the 60s but I got tired of the less than stellar musicianship from the 70s on ...

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:15 am

Sloppy, out of tune. Defines rock and roll to me!

Fresh blood for Keef? You mean he's had another total transfusion?

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:56 pm

after the Stones lost Brian Jones it was downhill for them ...

the Stones are the most famous Garage Band of all time ...

royclough · Post by **royclough** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:11 pm

I have to say I was never a Stones fan but the statement, with respect Jeff, is not supported by the facts.

I accept one can have a opinion on whether they were better with or without Jones but some 35 hit singles in UK alone and hit after hit album dispel the view that they went downhill.

einar · Post by **einar** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:17 pm

Jones-Stones was the best in a way, and Taylor- Stones was more exciting than Wood-Stones!

lyle_from_minneapolis · Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:28 am

I'm a Ron Wood fan and I'm mystified about the bashing he takes. I always felt he was perfect for the Stones, and he's not exactly struggling on guitar. I don't know, but in my opinion, longing for Brian Jones is like searching for Syd Barrett...he lost the plot and was dismissed from the band. Mick Taylor was an excellent player but short-lived, less of a showman than Ron Wood, and has not exactly gone on to greater fame...he will always be "formerly of the Stones."

Meanwhile, the millions keep rolling in and the stadiums continue to fill. If the Rolling Stones suck, then a lot of us missed the memo.

kenposurf · Post by **kenposurf** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:40 am

Saw Mick Taylor pre-Stones when he played with John Mayall...he had big shoes to fill then also EC's...but he is one hell of a blues player...I kinda thought the Stones peaked with Let It Bleed and BB still is the darkest/coolest Lp...there is always 2 or 3 track on every one of their cd's that kicks *** tough enough to make me have to have the cd...liked Ron with Rod S..but agree he's a good fit with the Stones...

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:41 pm

I can't tell the difference between Wood and Keith when they play together, to me that means he doesn't have much of a style of his own, he plays much like Keith but not as good. But I still would rather hear something new from them than 99% of the rest of the krap that comes out nowadays, so I guess it's just a matter of perspective. They have just sounded very one dimensional to me since the first two guitarists left. Taylor was with them for 5 years which is longer than most bands stay together. I'm not bashing Wood either, I just think he toes the line, doesn't make waves and will be with them for a long as they are together, he is probably having a great life.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:56 pm

Ummm, Brian Jones??? I'd like to make reference to a film that many Brits have seen and no doubt discussed, but has just recently seen the light on night here in mynekkathewoods. It's called "Stoned"; based upon the allegation that he brought a home contractor into his highly-manipulated inner circle, messed with said contractor's head, and died as a result.

VERY interesting period piece, right down to the first pseudo club date opening in B & W, replete with genuine Kay entry-level guitars!

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:16 pm

Believe I saw the same film, well done.

Ms. Boyd says once Mick had to tell Ronnie if he didn't sober up, the Stones would go on tour without him.

We all have our demons!

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:57 am

After they lost Jones they began to lose quality ... part of it was jones leaving and part of it was the drug usage starting to take its toll and part of they just got old and ugly ...