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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:13 pm
by eatswodo
Wait a minute - if your BMW averaged 17.5 MPG, you'd have used 2000 gallons doing 35,000 miles. How could a Prius have saved you 3000 gallons?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:13 pm
by charlyg
Actually there are some studies that dispute the fact we could run out of fuel. In fact there is at least one that says not all of what we turn into fuel comes from fossils. Our biggest problem right now is the enviros stopping us from getting to it. No one wants to budge from their preconceived notions, on either side.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:19 pm
by marc61
Oh oh...you're right...lemme go return my Prius.

good thing I'm not a math teacher BUT -

The bimmer takes premium, the Prius regular. All I can tell you is when I fill up the BMW it costs me $50, when I fill up the Prius, it's $20. That and I save wear and tear on a nice vehicle, and have no problem running the Prius to the ground.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:23 pm
by wmthor
My sister has one and loves it, as does the rest of the family. My BIL uses it whenever he has to go down to Tampa, rather than driving his M-3.

They took a road trip (Ocala-Houston-Little Rock- Ocala) in August with my two nephews. My sister says that they averaged 49 mpg. However, I have no idea how comfortable they were, as my BIL is 6'8", both nephews exceed 6'4", and my sister is 5'8".

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:42 pm
by jingle_jangle
I'll bet the trailer they were towing had lots of headroom!

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:52 pm
by johnallg
What amazes me is that after about 144 years we are still using gasoline powered internal combustion engines.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:14 am
by woodyng
2 cents more-for about $7000 less,you get the same gas-burner in the yaris. i rented one of these recently while in california for a week,regular gas was $3.50/gallon,and averaged 38 mpg in city/interstate/mountain driving. it is a low-emission engine as well,and was more than adequate for all the driving i did-about 1100 miles in 6 days.....i owned a first edition scion xb for 2 years and loved it as well....now driving a '93 miata...change is good!

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:39 am
by bitzerguy
Paul, the Alé is a very good looking piece of equipment from the front. I am not sure what they were thinking when they did the rear though. I think there is much more that could be done there.

I drove a Trex (another Canadian 3 wheeler, same config as the Alé, less sexy to look at)up to my cottage from Montreal (about 2 hours of equal parts high speed multilane and winding narrow two lane on cliff side). While the Trex has an open cockpit, it is still very narrow inside. I was surprised that I was able to go the distance quite easily. The Alé is a bit more claustrophobic though, and much more powerful.

...Dean

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:50 am
by lyle_from_minneapolis
"Enviros"? I guess that must be derogatory, like crazies, or yahoos, or whackos.

Well, count me in. I've always been a big fan of God's creation. Image

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:51 pm
by johnallg
Eh, Mark, 10000 years after man kills of humankind you won't even know we were here! Image

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:38 pm
by rictified
I have an economy car for my equipment, a 95 LT1 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon, love it, go by Prius's all the time and say, hey, there's one of my car's babies, it'll grow up soon enough and be able to keep up with us adults. Runs very clean and they're good for 200,000 miles as you never have to push them even going up hills fully loaded, and yes they are not too bad on gas, get over 20 MPG on the highway going 75-80 with AC on, pretty good for a 5.7L Corvette motor. (Anticipation, I've been around here a long time)

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:18 pm
by rictified
Well carry on happy Prius owners, didn't mean to hijack the thread.

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:09 pm
by wayang
10,000 years is a bit conservative considering some of the 'half-lives' of some of the substances stuck in the ground, blowing across the plains or floating in the ocean.

I once got dropped off by helicopter in the Dry Valleys in Antarctica to rebuild a survival cache there...after the job was done, I had some time to kill before being picked up, so I went for a hike upstream along the banks of the Onyx River, a narrow stream of glacial meltwater. I was having fun thinking about how it could have been hundreds of thousands of years in the past, since there was absolutely no sign of human existence...then, stuck under a boulder in the midst of one of the most untouched landscapes left on Earth, I spotted a big sheet of plastic jammed there by the wind.

Maybe I'm just an unpatriotic, anti free market "enviro" weasel, but that horrid vision has haunted me for twenty five years...

Invest in a condo on Yucca Mountain, anyone?

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:11 pm
by dr_bob
Hey Bob, I have to admit "Roadmaster" is the best name ever for a car.

With that gas mileage you're getting, however, you won't be able to hijack anything too far without stopping to fill up. And all of us little "babies" will smile at you and wave when we quietly roll on by at 80 MPH Image

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:21 pm
by wayang
Oh yeah, then there's this...

"Actually there are some studies that dispute the fact we could run out of fuel."

I'm guessing those studies were conducted by the same folks who deny the existence of ozone depletion, artificially induced global warming, the evolution of species and the real age of the planet, not to mention it's spherical shape and position somewhere other than at the center of the universe.

If you drive a gas guzzler, you're obliged to think that we'll never run out of fuel (and that burning it up as fast as we can poses no harm to our world) if you want to sleep soundly at night.

This is the same reason Prince Charles and the Saud family continue to believe in the Divine Right of Kings...