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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:53 am
by rickengrowl
The thing I was thinking of about Ric'o'Sound, is that one can send the treble to an amp w/10" speaker cabs (for example), and the bass to a subwoofer (w/ an infrabass processor). I'd be curious to hear how it sounds with a Rick amplified that way...

Cheers,
JL

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:09 pm
by keb
Amy from Clatter plays a Rickenbacker through two or three different amps simultaneously, I dunno if she uses Ric-O-Sound though.

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:27 pm
by bigbajo60
When I first got my '77 4001, I used to use a Radio Shack stereo split Y cable (didn't order the ROS box), run each pickup to it's own channel on my old 2 channel Peavey bass amp, and treat each pickup independently.

Processing the signal from the treble pickup with an MXR distortion+ would give me what I perceived at the time to be a decent approximation of the "Geddy sound"!

Now, let today's technology take this approach to the next level! Imagine the possibilities running direct into a high quality PA with a Bass POD on one pickup and a Guitar POD on the other!

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:51 pm
by jwr2
You could achieve the same thing simply by splitting the signal from the mono output ... any person in the audience would not be able to tell the difference ....

I have played with a few guitarists who had a stereo setup ... again ... the people in the audience could not hear the difference ... in fact the stereo setup sometimes takes away more than it adds ...

These days what matters is what comes out the PA ... if you set everything up right then what the audience hears is the PA not your stages amps ... so stereo or mono don't matter in that scenario ...

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:52 pm
by rictified
unless you mic or (shudder) Direct box the two amps into two different channels and pan one to the right, and one to the left. It would probably sound nice for a 12 string from the back of the room. A little complicated though huh? Hey Jeff, send me all your old stereo jacks too, while your at it. Or are you a hoarder also?

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:59 pm
by keb
Hmmm, interesting thread on ROS in the Guitar forum, including some comments from Mr. Hall: ../7/5031.html"#FFEECC">

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:56 pm
by jwr2
If you want to split the signal do what Geddy Lee does ... He runs a mono signal into a Tech21 Sans amp ... he then runs 3 signals into the pa ... no bass amp here ... one signal is regular, one has distortion and one has more bass ... the sound man mixes the 3 signals and you hear it through the pa when you see a rush concert ...

I sometimes use 2 bass amps ... not stereo ... the second one is a slave to the first ... but usually I run into a line 6 bass pod and then into an ampeg b2r with 4 10's and mike it with a shure sm57 and run it into the PA ...

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:35 am
by shamustwin
I play guitar in my current band, and my stage guitars don't have ric-o-sound. But often I'll bring two amps, one with 12's and one with 10's, and run my guitar out through a stereo device to both. I would consider a ric-o-sound equipped guitar for a future purchase. It's neat to have the option, and working to find a good setup with it must be an enjoyable challenge. (neither of my Ric basses have ROS).

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:40 am
by shamustwin
P.S. and BTW no one asked me for a penny for my thoughts, but here's my two cents anyway-on our current recording with bass we went direct from the amp direct out and miked (spelling?) the speakers separate tracks, then mixed and matched. Probably the most common way to record bass, no?

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:09 am
by jwr2
Yep ... that's a good way to do it ...

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:39 pm
by jps
I feel the same way about biamping as with ROS, it really makes no difference in the end.

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:19 pm
by jwr2
I agree