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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:07 pm
by rictified
I think it was a joke Jeff.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:36 pm
by johnhall
The modern horseshoe has only changed in that the magnetic element was placed in the slugs within the coil instead of relying on the magnetized chrome horseshoes. The main benefit of the horseshoe, the directing of the magnetic energy 360 degress around the string, is still the defining element of this design. The Alnico is not only decidely stronger magnetically, it is also infinitely more stable over the long haul.

Sure, you can take off the horseshoes from a modern pickup and it will still work- but it doesn't sound half as good that way!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:54 am
by squirebass
Jeff,
Bob's right!


John, I love the tone those 'shoes put out as well! They offer a much wider palette of tones than some of the older designs in my experience.

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:41 am
by banta
I like the horseshoe on my '86 4003.

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:07 am
by jwr2
speaking of horseshoes ... what the @#$% happened to the horseshoe on this bass

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2365795291&category=4713

the dufass butchered a Chris Squire signature model ... he put a sound sucking seymour duncan humbucker in it ... and then he let Gene Simmons sign it ... what a dufass ...

he took a $1800 bass and turned it into a $500 bass

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:13 am
by dano
I was just gonna post this hack job. It can be restored (when the horseshoe pickup is made available again). Removing the Gene Simmons autograph could be a challenge though.

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 7:39 pm
by atomic_punk
It ended with Buy it Now for $1700. Sigh. Hopefully its new owner can restore it to its former glory. I wrote the seller previously and asked him how much Gene Simmons charged him for his signature. He was not amused.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:32 am
by squirebass
That's like sticking your used bubblegum on the Mona Lisa, if you ask me... I thought about writing to the seller myself, but I didn't think they would appreciate my comments. I was gonna ask him how easy it would be to polish off the autograph, which would be the only condition I would have for buying it!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:59 am
by jwr2
what was that movie where Mr. Bean ruined the Whistler's Mother painting ... and he fixed it with bubble gum and stuff ...

I would not want Gene Simmons to sign one of my Rics ... Star Stowe maybe ....

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:12 am
by atomic_punk
Hey Jeff....wasn't that movie "Mr. Bean?" I mean, how many movies has that guy been in? Image
I have actually met Gene on several occasions. Once, he and the rest of the band signed an LP for me, which I gave to my brother who was in the hospital. Another time, I went to see (ugh!) Slaughter/Winger?/Kiss and Gene came out to watch the show, I was in the 10th row and he sat next to me and watched the show. His bodyguard told me not to look at him or talk to him, ever since then I have hated him.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:26 am
by shamustwin
So who'd want to look at him?

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:52 pm
by jps
Gene must be pretty shallow if he's going to sit next to some one in the audience and then expect to be ignored. What an A__!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:31 pm
by rictified
They were probably afraid once someone recognized him he'd have no peace the rest of the night. Must be hard to be a star.