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Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:05 pm
by jps
So....... we'll be seeing you at MARF, Jake? :?: :wink: 8)

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:13 pm
by JakeK
If I can talk the folks into it and work around my school schedule, hell yeah!

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:55 pm
by BobKat
The 1998PT will have washers under the retaining bushings for the tuners. Also, of course, the third pickup and R. You could fake a 1998PT using an early 1997 SPC VB and changing the tailpece. But you would really have to know the finer details.

Later 1997s changed in very minute but significant ways, from color of finish to tuners to head shape and neck profile.

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:42 pm
by shamustwin
I came late to this party...
I haven't done in depth comparisons with my 1997's, but they all play great. The "newest", a 2000 I believe, has a thicker neck. I love that guitar, it's my main gigging one. I've been strat-free lately.

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:57 pm
by ken_j
For an extra $2500 I would rather buy a second guitar or amp, but most likely I would keep it in the bank. :) :) :)

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:16 pm
by kerchang
Get a PT! There's something very special about those models. :D

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:46 pm
by AQuickOne
I have a 1997SPC/VB made in (ironically) 1998. This guitar is nearly identical to the PT except the GUCCI pickguard. I have done much to this by way of electronics. Installed a vintage cap between the tone knob like the RM era guitars, made sure that the pU's were wound to the right specs of '64. I put some Thomastik's on it for that jangly sound. It really sounds perfect through an AC30. I would say, you can have a virtual 1964 RM Ric for less than half the cost. Mine was $1200 on Ebay 6 years ago, $50 more for upgrades, wahlah! I keep track of these on ebay. First, they rarely come up. Second, when they do, for some reason, nobody buys them! Are these just not popular with collectors? They seem to be the dog of the RIC family. I love mine however, sounds just like the first two Who albums.

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:28 pm
by jingle_jangle
Welcome, Jeff!

Now, about that "wahlah" thingie...maybe you mean "voilá"???

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:47 pm
by shamustwin
My ex-girlfriend played the viola. :D

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:00 am
by AQuickOne
Sorry, strong aversion to all things French

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:12 pm
by deaconblues
Hey Jeff, welcome to the forum! Nice username...

It seems that the 1997/1998s have been undergoing a bit of a resurgence in popularity this year. Prices are now up to around $2500 USD.

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:18 am
by AQuickOne
Thanks.
I am glad to hear that more people are taking notice of these and their worth to the RIC family, they really were/are great guitars and need to be recognised.

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:12 am
by collin
AQuickOne wrote:I have a 1997SPC/VB made in (ironically) 1998. Mine was $1200 on Ebay 6 years ago.......I keep track of these on ebay. First, they rarely come up. Second, when they do, for some reason, nobody buys them! Are these just not popular with collectors? They seem to be the dog of the RIC family..
well, 6 years ago it was 2002, which would have made your 1997SPC only a four year old used guitar, and a model that had only been discontinued for about a year or so, hence the low price.

It's natural for any discontinued model to go up in price. For some reason (?) they didn't sell massive numbers of them when they were available (largely, I believe because it was similar in price to the more deluxe 360v64 model), hence their somewhat rarity these days.

I wouldn't call them the dog of the RIC family though, they are quite collectible and have been so for at least four years now. I do agree though, that they are important models in the Ric family.

Cheers,
-Collin

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:44 pm
by AQuickOne
Here is one, a plain 1997 on ebay right now. It is in Austrailia, so I don't think it will sell. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0292521181
Price seems too high, just my opinion.

Re: 1997 vs 1998 PT

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:07 pm
by AQuickOne
I think another reason they did not sell very well when they were available, was because most people who were new to Rickenbacker were confused by the F hole. Lets face it, RIckenbacker's look has always been about the cool catseye soundhole.