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Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:38 pm
by beatlefreak
You seem to be doing a fine job, John.
:P

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:48 pm
by johnallg
Jeff, what a pal!

As to when the CNCs went online, how does July 8, 1996 sound, starting with the 330 guitar bodies and phasing the rest in over the course of the next year. I have that info on good authority..... :lol:

Let me reiterate that before the CNC machines, the bodies were still routed out, but by hand, guided by a jig. So I don't see a big difference except for the CNC being more accurate, producing a better fitting instrument, especially the neck pocket. The necks are hand sanded just a tad on a belt sander to JUST nestle into the pocket. I've watched the person responsible for this and he has to push to get the neck in, so you know it is a solid joint.
Neck Fitting.jpg

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:49 pm
by johnallg
beatlefreak wrote:You seem to be doing a fine job, John.
:P
Give anyone enough rope and they can hang themselves! :lol: :shock:

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:46 am
by fireglo67
Thanks John, I really appreciate the info.

What I'd really love is a video of how a rick is made, from tree to geetar! :D

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:16 am
by ken_j
I thought that CNC production, at least partially, started when RIC moved to the new (present ) building in the '80s. As the years went by more operations were done by CNC.

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:16 pm
by paologregorio
I love my CNC cut `97 WB-it's perfect. It was one of the last, and it's one of the best guitars I have:
WBTUR1.jpg

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:43 pm
by whojamfan
While there is a noticeable(slightly)difference between the 2, I certainly don't see a deal breaker going on here. Either way it's a good looking guitar, and I would imagine that if the 2 were side by side, without it being posted which was which, most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference or tell what was what.

Just my 2 cents, but it's good to know the difference just for curiositys sake.

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:02 pm
by deaconblues
I actually noticed that there were some weird differences between pre- and post-CNC Ricks some time ago, particularly when it comes to position and shape of the soundhole. It's especially apparent on the 381 model:
68381 001.jpg
1969
87381FG 001.jpg
1987
rick381f.jpg
2008?

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:08 pm
by deaconblues
Some more '69s:
1969-381-TBlair-Body.JPG
FT2.JPG
Anyone know why the knobs on a 381 are always put on crooked?

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:51 pm
by deaconblues
This 360's quite a bit different, too:
r118.jpg

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:27 am
by deaconblues
Bringing this thread out of the mothballs because I finally found the 360 I was looking for:
86360slvr 001.jpg
Now THAT's a funky-lookin Rick!

Here's a CNC 360 for comparison's sake:
360maple005.jpg

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:39 pm
by johnallg
Dan, not intending to incense, but I like the shape of the CNC body better. The horn shapes just look more pleasing to me. FWIW. Not sure where your preference lies, but since you hunted the free shaped one, I suspect there. Only my opinion.

What is neat about this is I've learned there is a big difference in body shaping through the years on the guitars.

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:57 am
by beatlefreak
Wow! That's quite a difference.

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:05 am
by deaconblues
johnallg wrote:Dan, not intending to incense, but I like the shape of the CNC body better. The horn shapes just look more pleasing to me. FWIW. Not sure where your preference lies, but since you hunted the free shaped one, I suspect there. Only my opinion.

What is neat about this is I've learned there is a big difference in body shaping through the years on the guitars.
I was just trying to illustrate how much Rickenbackers have changed over the years. On the first page I mentioned the silver 360, and when I finally found the picture I remembered this thread.

My preference would be the CNC body as well - that silver one looks very strange in comparison.

Re: Rickenbacker guitar production.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:33 am
by 1965
The irony, of course, is that the horns of the ugly silver one are much closer to the horns of the originals than the CNC one. Personally, I don't like either.