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A fiend put a Jazz pick up of some sort in the mute area of his bass after talking with Jeff. He found that the volume was low do to the minimal string movement at that point. That may be why Jeff liked the Quarter Pounder. My friend later changed the pickup for a Carvin single coil (Strat type) with the 22 pole screws. He liked it much better. I can't remember if he had to remove the cover to fit it in the mute cavity.

ken_j wrote:A fiend put a Jazz pick up of some sort in the mute area of his bass after talking with Jeff.

Freudian slip or character assessment?

Joshua,

On the mute pickup, you may be best served by looking for a hot "blade" style strat pickup. This should solve the pole-piece worries and any issue with lack of grunt. I know Duncan make a few different models and I'm sure the other brands will have something similar.

antipodean wrote:

ken_j wrote:A fiend put a Jazz pick up of some sort in the mute area of his bass after talking with Jeff.

Freudian slip or character assessment?

Joshua,

On the mute pickup, you may be best served by looking for a hot "blade" style strat pickup. This should solve the pole-piece worries and any issue with lack of grunt. I know Duncan make a few different models and I'm sure the other brands will have something similar.

Yeah that was supposed to read friend. Also the Carvin pickup has 11 poles not 22. Their full size HB's have 22. They also make a twin blade HB that is the same size as their single coils. The Duncan's are called Hot Rails and Cool Rails.

So what's the consensus on kOhms, double digits because the strings don't move much?

I'll look at blade-type pickups... so the Tele rhythm pickup wouldn't be suitable?

By the way I really appreciate all the advice I am receiving on this topic. Thanks.

EDIT: Found some links to potential leads... can anyone give me some advice? Higher output is better, I'm guessing, what about humbucking? Would all of these fit?

http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/e ... rails_for/
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/e ... ack_for_s/
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/e ... ck_tube_f/
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/e ... e_rails_s/

I'll check and make sure it's not against the rules for me to post these links. If it is I'll remove them.

If you're worrying about your neck's surface I have a 36 year old 4001FL and the neck surface is still perfect, it's always had flat wounds on it and it's still original have never had to steel wool it or anything.

The Higher Ohms pickup that you use the less it will dominate when it is mixed with the other pickups (as the lower resistance pickup will get a larger slice of the pie) and the bigger it will sound by itself.
So if you have somthing with 16 Kohms Use it!
Eden.

I'm intrigued at this fact. Since I am going to wire this to the push-pull (that is my plan), and will be able to turn it on or off, I think I will go with lower resistance than that. I want it to influence the overall mix to an extent--I'd really like to hear some more mids/hi-mids personally.

Thanks again for all the advice.

EDIT: Just FYI, I have ruled out the hot stack based on some of its dimensions. The other three are still game.

Does anyone know exactly how tall the pickup can be? I measured the cavity--without taking the tailpiece off--at just barely over 0.5''. Granted it was a crummy ruler and I had to compensate a little for the blank area at its head but I still believe this measurement to be fairly accurate. However, most pickups I've looked at are at LEAST 0.7'' or more. The vast majority of the rail-type Strat pickups are 0.80''.

This http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/e ... pound_f_1/ is the smallest one I have come across yet and it's a Tele model. But if people are fitting Jazz pickups in there... it must be able to accomodate 0.7'', or else people are filing the pickups down. I believe I read somewhere that people had done that, but it doesn't seem like there's much to file before you hit the magnet!

Josh,

Remember there's quite a bit of space within the tailpiece structure itself, in addition to the cavity. I would guess that there is onthe .4 to .5 of an inch from the "floor" of the tailpiece to the bottom of the string recess gaps in the mute section of the tailpiece. This should provide sufficient space all up, and reasonable string clearance.

antipodean wrote:Josh,

Remember there's quite a bit of space within the tailpiece structure itself, in addition to the cavity. I would guess that there is onthe .4 to .5 of an inch from the "floor" of the tailpiece to the bottom of the string recess gaps in the mute section of the tailpiece. This should provide sufficient space all up, and reasonable string clearance.

So in actuality something like 0.9-1.0''? That helps!