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Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:00 pm
by ilan
winston wrote:If you change the body or a neck on a Fender Stratcocaster is it still a Strat?
Fenders are different because they are basically parts guitars. The bass in question, if carefully restored, will remain a Ric IMHO. But I think someone will buy it not for full restoration but for its fretboard and possibly the truss rods.
Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:01 pm
by cjj
winston wrote:cjj wrote:OK, start with one RIC TRC, use the same woods and RIC hardware and what do you have?
That would not qualify as a restoration project in my mind.
I am willing to bet that Paul can help determine when work such as you mention crosses the line to become a replica and alternatively when it could be deemed a restoration project.
Actually, it would probably be up to Mr. Hall and his legal staff.
Yeah, that was getting a bit absurd, but it served to point out that this topic encompasses a vast gray area between what is a restoration and what is a replica/fake/whatever. I really don't know the answer, but I'd think that if the restoration started with the main structural element, such as the neck, it should qualify as a restoration. I doubt this has ever been tested in the courts (oh, and I'm in no way willing to be the first

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Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:21 pm
by jps
Save me, Ted!!
Sorry I'm busy at the moment!

Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:27 pm
by winston
I did not realise that Ted was so good looking.

Seriously though, what a handsome dog you have there Jeff.
Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:28 pm
by gareth
I would buy this for the neck to maybe turn my 4003 hulk into a doubleneck, but then I'm full of good ideas I can't possibly pay for.
A fretted/fretless or 4-8 string comes to mind.
Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:33 pm
by jps
winston wrote:I did not realise that Ted was so good looking.

Seriously though, what a handsome dog you have there Jeff.
Teddy belongs to my partner at the lab, Jim, but Teddy comes to work every day; he is VP in charge of security. Not only that, but he has gotten pre-approved American Express credit card applications in the mail!

Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:33 pm
by johnny_rick
That's exactly what happened to the dollar since that bass was built!
Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:39 pm
by winston
My dog Winston never get's credit card offers in the mail. He does not have fancy title though.

Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:18 pm
by jps
Aitch and Paul Boyer have met Teddy, perhaps they can give their impressions of him.
Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:35 pm
by johnallg
This has to be a later 70s 4001 as the neck pickup is really at the 1" position - look at the deeper center of the rout and the distance to the fretboard. Why would someone cut up a nicely flamed Rick? This neck begs for some of Steve's flamed maple (as in his cabs he built). The headstock end looks like it was under water at some point.
Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:21 am
by ilan
Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:54 am
by JakeK
Ironic!
Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:18 am
by gareth
Well, that neck is now going for more than I bought this entire body and neck for less than a month ago. Someone must really want a 4001 project.....
Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:58 am
by rickaddict
Y'know, I saw what looks like a '74 to '76 4001 bass neck with mutilated body wings on ebay right now, and an ambitious person could build a 4001 cheap. Or spend 2 grand for one. Email questions, good luck!
Smart of him to put it on ebay now!
Re: Save me, Ted!!
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:30 am
by aceonbass
I tend to think of the neck as the heart and soul of an instrument. Even if non-RIC body wings are applied to that neck, I think it's still a Rick, as long as they have the proper shape of course. On the other hand, if a new neck is made for that body, it is not a Rick.