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Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:08 am
by jdogric12
That's right Paul. I had a '00 330/12 TUR with ROS in the regular jack, and a mono jack in the guard, for those quiet nights at home.

Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:15 am
by cjj
I've pretty much run my basses dual for the last 30 some years, using the Ric-o-sound and a splitter. I used to use those dual channel bass amps years ago, and have used a guitar amp for the treble, bass for the bass. I like the versatility so much I just can't imagine going mono, in fact, I'm modifying my 4004Cii for stereo.

These days I run the treble into a Sansamp RBI, the bass into a Sansamp RPM, lots of tonal possibilities with that...

Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:28 pm
by ric330
teb wrote:I converted my 330/12 to a 340/12 and have the ability to run it in a dual-mono mode. It has toasters at the neck and bridge positions on the standard 5-knob 330 system and a toaster-cover-converted-high-gain in the middle with just a volume control. They all run to a stereo jack and a Y-cord. From there you have two totally separate outputs to play with through different amps, channels, effects, etc. If you don't feel like messing with the dual-mono thing, you simply plug a regular guitar cord into it and it works the same as a stock 330 system. There are some interesting options with the dual system. I think they're most helpful when you are looking for moderate changes or subtle effects and mix in some unaltered sound on one line with something run through effects on the other line. I very oftem mix a JangleBox on the neck/bridge circuit with a normal signal on the mid pickup circuit. Sometimes also a chorus or reverb pedal or tremolo on one side (I don't use much overdrive on twelves). The sixth knob on the middle pickup lets me dial in as much unaltered tone as desired into the mix and the knob to adjust it is right there in easy reach on the pickguard. Works quite well. My 360/12 is rigged similarly, but uses both output jacks at once and a double Y cord or two cords.

I started doing this on some of my basses in 1972 and it generates some tones that you simply can't get with a single, mono output. Back in those days, most of our amps (Fender Twins, Super Reverbs, Bassmen, Bandmasters, Acoustic Control Corp. amps, some Sunns, etc.) were dual-channel heads. These days they aren't as common on new amp designs (especially bass amps) so it gets more complicated if you aren't interested in dragging a second amp around. When recording, I always use two tracks for bass and two for the twelves. It gives greater adjustability later when you mix the tune.
My gosh Tod, you've got some nice :mrgreen: Ricks. That Maple glo is really nice and a very cool output rig.

Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:59 pm
by 8mileshigher
kiramdear wrote:I used to run the treble pickup through a guitar amp with effects and the neck pickup into a good old bass combo clean. Wow! It was like having a partner doubling me. :shock:

That split amp set up you are mentioning, sort of reminds me of the concept immortalized by the late, great, John Cippollina 8) of Quicksilver Messenger Service... and enshrined at the RRHOF. Regards
Rich F.

http://www.johncipollina.com/rock.html

Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:08 pm
by kiramdear
8mileshigher wrote:That split amp set up you are mentioning, sort of reminds me of the concept immortalized by the late, great, John Cippollina 8) of Quicksilver Messenger Service... and enshrined at the RRHOF. Regards
Rich F.
And long may his name be hallowed. Last time I saw him was at the old Rose & Thistle on California St. in The City. It was a drop-in appearance after a big show somewhere, I forget which one, and he was great. Unique. I lusted for that SG. :oops: There is no one else like him.

Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:04 pm
by 8mileshigher
kiramdear wrote: And long may his name be hallowed. Last time I saw him was at the old Rose & Thistle on California St. in The City. It was a drop-in appearance after a big show somewhere, I forget which one, and he was great. Unique. I lusted for that SG. :oops: There is no one else like him.
+1
Yeah, when I lived in The City, I think the last times I saw Cipollina was a Quicksilver "reunion" and they played Winterland around '74 or '75 and I saw Copperhead once... can't remember if it was before or after that QMS reunion. Then there was the Gravenites band .... The good old days of the S.F. psychedelic rock scene... Cipollina had a definite swagger about him playing that SG -- his movements on stage really showed his enthusiasm.

Regards, Rich F.

Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:21 pm
by kiramdear
Right on, Rich. The Rose & Thistle surprise was about '76. I saw Copperhead too, at Winterland.

I hope no one is annoyed with a little drift here, because they should check out Cippolina's work to see what he did with his two output (stereo) SG. It's a lesson from a master. All his techniques are well documented too.

Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:44 pm
by jimk
kiramdear wrote:
ric330 wrote:
kiramdear wrote:I used to run the treble pickup through a guitar amp with effects and the neck pickup into a good old bass combo clean. Wow! It was like having a partner doubling me. I loved it. My rhythm player looked like Bambi in the headlights when he heard it. :shock:
I love it!
That sounds like a cool idea.
Throw a POG on the treble line for the next level of terror. :mrgreen:
POG? Who'd want to use a Piece O' Garbage? Maybe there's some 'splainin' to do, eh? :mrgreen:
JimK

Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:49 pm
by kiramdear
It's a stomp box, Jim. It creates more voices at octaves or other intervals from your signal. Pretty scary. 8)

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Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:21 am
by jimk
<sigh>I been playin' unamplified too long. But POG? Maybe somebody at R&D needs to rethink their acronym, here. :lol: :lol:

JimK

Re: 2 Inputs, huh...???

Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:47 am
by jps
jimk wrote:<sigh>I been playin' unamplified too long. But POG? Maybe somebody at R&D needs to rethink their acronym, here. :lol: :lol:

JimK
Hey, it could have been called Polyphonic Instrument Generator. :mrgreen: