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Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:08 am
by jps
jdogric12aolcom wrote:Actually, the holes are already there. That's what started me thinking I should try it. As luck would have it, though, I probably won't be playing the 4002 so much now... got a better bass in the stable now... :D
If that's the case, can I borrow the 4002 for a while? :wink:

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:21 am
by woodyng
ok dog,what's the better bass? btw,did you sell your green cii? inquiring minds...... :mrgreen:

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:02 pm
by jdogric12
Yep, the 4004 Cii TG is long gone. Go figure, a forumite bought it through the eBay. D'oh! Oh well.


JPS, maybe we could work out a temporary trade???


What's better than a 4002? (besides TWO 4002's)
Well, the 4002 has pretty good sustain with the 21st fret, and all that extra wood between the neck and the pickup cavities. But there is a Rick bass that has a LOT of extra wood, for ridiculous sustain. I played a note on it last night that will probably sustain until September. Come on, it aint that difficult! :D

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:19 pm
by ajish4
jdogric12aolcom wrote:

What's better than a 4002? (besides TWO 4002's)
Well, the 4002 has pretty good sustain with the 21st fret, and all that extra wood between the neck and the pickup cavities. But there is a Rick bass that has a LOT of extra wood, for ridiculous sustain. I played a note on it last night that will probably sustain until September. Come on, it aint that difficult! :D
I KNOW, I KNOW........but I don't want to ruin it for you guys! :lol:

.....ah, nevermind, that hint would give it away! :wink:

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:38 pm
by jdogric12
Dudes, it's in my signature.

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:58 pm
by cjj
Must be that 5002v58... No, wait... Uhh...

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:18 pm
by berth
cjj wrote:Must be that 5002v58... No, wait... Uhh...
No, must be the FL (probably with flats). Other than that I only see guitars in his sig. ;-)

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:30 pm
by cassius987
I had to put Hipshot Ultralites on my 2008 4003FL to get the sustain to come out in a few areas, but once I did... like he said, sustains forever. And it's definitely my favorite bass.

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:57 pm
by jps
jdogric12aolcom wrote:JPS, maybe we could work out a temporary trade???
That's sounds like a plan. Let's talk.

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:32 pm
by johnallg
rickaddict wrote:
johnallg wrote:I thought they were the same size? That is what I used on my BT tailpiece when I added the 2 extra screws, and they work fine. Remember to drill a decent pilot hole so as not to split maple. I went to the local hardware store and got same sized stainless screws.
I've found that not all of my Rick tails have the same screws. Some have a slightly different thread type from others. Some of my 5 screw tails have the front three different from the back two. Most, if not all of my 7 screw tails have the back two slightly longer than the front five.

But I have 7 screw tails from 1987 (on a 4003) to 2000 (on a 4003S/5), and as with most things RIC...life is like a box of chocolates!

8)
I was worried about going through to the back and also splitting the maple.

Jdog, be it the 4080??

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:33 pm
by ajish4
johnallg wrote: Jdog, be it the 4080??
I believe we have a winner! :wink:

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:35 pm
by johnallg
ajish4 wrote:
johnallg wrote: Jdog, be it the 4080??
I believe we have a winner! :wink:
It was the sig part "Get your prog on" that gave it away! :lol: :lol:

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:29 pm
by jdogric12
Yep, all that extra maple makes for lotsa sustain. I am so gettin' my prog on.

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:51 pm
by rickaddict
Okay, Mr. Dog. True to my promise, I have measured my screws! I took a small sampling of three, 7-screw tailed instruments. The regular tail screws on a 5-screw tail usually seem to be 3/4" long. My 1989 4003S/5 has these same 3/4" screws in the sixth and seventh position, but I don't like them as much for the job. Only two or three turns of the thread are grabbing maple. The other two sampled instruments (and most of my 7-screw tails from what I remember) had screws that were about 15/16" long. I think 15/16" is your best bet. If you have to go longer, obviously you'll want to hold it next to the bass/tail to make sure it isn't so long it will poke through the back of the bass, but I wouldn't worry much about that. You'd have to go a lot longer than 15/16" before the screw would poke through.

Re: 83 4002 tailpiece

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:51 am
by jps
jdogric12aolcom wrote:Yep, all that extra maple makes for lotsa sustain. I am so gettin' my prog on.
Got Taurus?