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Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:28 pm
by jps
teeder wrote:It would be interesting to hear the tonal difference with the ebony board.
Well, 4002s have ebony fingerboards. :!: :idea: :)

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:41 pm
by FretlessOnly
cran wrote:This is the message I got from the RIC customer service:

"That is a 4001 that someone has changed the fingerboard. It would not have
come from the factory like that."


A bit of a turnoff.
I wouldn't say so. So, it's not completely original, but we are talking a '74 here, right? Pre-July '73 would be another story, but that bass looks fantastic. Grab it and rip it, and don't worry about a mod that actualy makes it look hot.

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:19 am
by rickenbrother
I can see if you are disappointed that you thought this was original, but I agree with John. As long as the mod was well done, enjoy the bass.

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:51 am
by aceonbass
Left handed 4001's with dot boards always make me think of McCartney, so it has that goin' for it...which is nice :P

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:34 am
by cran
Still haven't got it yet.

Is there an official Rick reference song that is used as a benchmark when comparing instruments? :)

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:13 am
by jps
cran wrote:Is there an official Rick reference song that is used as a benchmark when comparing instruments? :)
For bass, the Official RRF Test SongĀ® is the first third of Close To The Edge.

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:57 am
by woodyng
then,roll off the treble completely,and play "silly love songs"...... :P

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:27 pm
by cran
Finally got it!

Anyway, here's a little sound example for those interested in hearing it (sorry, no Close To The Edge yet):

http://www.todesplanet.de/blog/?p=72

I think it sounds okay. The buzzing might be due to the low tension roundwounds I use. These are the Seymour Duncan replacement pickups, but I have the original ones as well! Nobody in this forum will tell me I should keep the SDs if I have the originals, right?

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:58 pm
by jps
Right!

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:34 pm
by berth
cran wrote: I think it sounds okay.
Sounds like a Rick to me. :)
cran wrote: The buzzing might be due to the low tension roundwounds I use. These are the Seymour Duncan replacement pickups, but I have the original ones as well! Nobody in this forum will tell me I should keep the SDs if I have the originals, right?
Well, I very much like my Rick pickups and my 4001c64 with toaster/horseshoe is my best sounding Rick. But I do know of one bassplayer I really like with a great tone who is using Seymour Duncan's. Alan Davey, former Hawkwind, and current Gunslinger and a lot more.

Here you can see the SD:
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Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:02 pm
by rickenbrother
It sounds more Rick-like than I was expecting. I'd reinstall the original pickups, but that's my opinion. Sebastian, you're the one that has to be happy with the tone.

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:09 pm
by cassius987
It sounds just fine if you ask me. :) All instruments have potential to sound better or worse than we initially realize them to be; recently I "rediscovered" just how incredible my 2007 4003 is. Give it a good enough setup and I'm sure it'll be a keeper.

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:02 am
by espidog
cassius987 wrote:Give it a good enough setup and I'm sure it'll be a keeper.
That's the crux of the matter, without a doubt. It's got great tone to it, but either your action is waaaaay too low or you've got to get the neck relief sorted out - possibly both. Kill that fret buzz and you've got one classy Rick on your hands. Nice find! :wink:

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:49 pm
by cran
Pickup replacement done. I made some photos of the innards, for those interested:

Cabling:
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New truss rods:
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Truss rod cavity:
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There are more pictures available here:
http://www.todesplanet.de/blog/?p=82

Re: 4001 with dark fingerboard and dot inlays

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:05 pm
by cran
Sound example with original pickups:

http://www.todesplanet.de/blog/audio/ri ... ickups.mp3