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Okay, that sounds the most logical, now that it has been made clear that the WB did have a bound soundhole on most models.leftybass wrote:My .02: I would say that it is a 360/12WB, LH, FG, and possibly VP (vintage p'ups option) which was available at the time I believe.
Other than the knobs I think that it is all original.....
70s and early early 80s 12 string WBs might not have, but plenty of others have.Scastles wrote:Most of the 360/12 WB’s I’ve seen do not have bound sound holes, other than the B‘s. John Hall commented on the RIC forum he ended their production as soon as he could in '84 and fired the person who came up with the B series. (The B’s were produced while John’s father was in ill health and before John took the reins). However, it doesn't mean there weren't past orders to fill on the B series.
This one is likely a ‘special order’ though, which were available at the time.
paologregorio wrote:70s and early early 80s 12 string WBs might not have, but plenty of others have.Scastles wrote:Most of the 360/12 WB’s I’ve seen do not have bound sound holes, other than the B‘s. John Hall commented on the RIC forum he ended their production as soon as he could in '84 and fired the person who came up with the B series. (The B’s were produced while John’s father was in ill health and before John took the reins). However, it doesn't mean there weren't past orders to fill on the B series.
This one is likely a ‘special order’ though, which were available at the time.
Paul W's Ruby 12 string WB has a bound soundhole This `85 JG WB 12 that just sold on EBay does as well Brian Medway's JG WB 12 has soundhole binding.
I've only seen a couple that did not have soundhole binding; one of these was a September `79 model in AZ Blue that recently sold on Ebay.
paologregorio wrote:... so at some point around the turn of the decade between the 70s and 80s, the bound soundhole became standard on the WB model.
Definitely had to be a special order if it came with toasters and there's no sign of the toasters being added on later. I ordered my AZ Blue WB with toasters; I think it was an extra $100 or so for the "vintage chrome bar pickups" as they were called back then. They were also available separately, but IIRc, all of the solder joints were untouched in this guitar, yes?Scastles wrote:paologregorio wrote:... so at some point around the turn of the decade between the 70s and 80s, the bound soundhole became standard on the WB model.
Then it seems to me sometime around the mid '80's it might have become standard, since there were WB models made in the early '80s without bound soundholes.
As far as my remarks about 12 strings, I referenced having only seen bound soundholes on B's, but I should have been clearer. I have only seen bound soundholes on B's, (which were 12's), that came with toasters. As was the case with guitar in question at the beginning of this thread. But since this 360 was made in '87, it is more likely it was a special order, considering the toasters.
WOW!!!! That's B E A U T I F U L ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !libratune wrote:FWIW, here's my 1981 360/12 WB RBY with bound soundhole:
Duplicate photo. i just saw the one listed above as Paul W's is actually mine.tmossman wrote:My '82 Ruby 360/12 WB with bound soundhole
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