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Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:28 pm
by jps
paologregorio wrote:
jps wrote:Everyone knows that 21 fretters get all the girls! 8)
Oh good! I can't wait until my Blue Boy WB arrives in September then; it's now a 21 fret model. :D
Did Dale also move the neck pickup back?

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:18 pm
by paologregorio
jps wrote:
paologregorio wrote:
jps wrote:Everyone knows that 21 fretters get all the girls! 8)
Oh good! I can't wait until my Blue Boy WB arrives in September then; it's now a 21 fret model. :D
Did Dale also move the neck pickup back?
You mean forward, yes? The old p/up route was blocked and a new one routed in the same spot as on an OS/21 fret model. :)

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:04 pm
by jps
Back, against the neck? Yes, that is what I meant. :mrgreen:

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:23 pm
by whojamfan
Hey man, can't play no "Freebird" on no 21 fret guitar man :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sheesh, I unknowingly bought what is agreed to be one of the worst Ricks ever made.

Strike 1-My 330FG isn't the new FG, but not quite "clownglo"(thank god).
Strike 2-The headstock is so enourmous that if I find myself up a creek, I at least have a paddle.
Strike 3-It came with those mud city button top pickups, and no stock .0047 cap hardwired or on a pushpull.
Strike 4-24 frets are 3 too many, pickups are too close together, and my sealed gear tuners don't cut the mustard.
Strike 5-The only binding it came with was the aluminum trim around the brittle case that was included with it.

I had wanted a 330FG for years, and had Ricks many years ago that I was happy with. When I finally got this one, I was stoked. As time rolls on, all I keep finding out is that my guitar is apparantly the "laughing stock" of 330s, with all of these new changes that everyone seems to not like. I can't help but feel a little cheated out of getting what has become to be known as the "staple" features of the classic 330. If I wanted a modern Rick, I would have bought a Dakota or something.

I really like my 330, but I know that I wiil probably be buried with it, or take a huge loss for it having these features. I am positive if I went to sell it today that I would be asked about the headstock, frets, and/or pickups. Kind of a shame, I really used to love this guitar, now I'm just kinda stuck with it. I do like it a lot, and enjoy playing it, but somehow feel I've purchased something that's not quite what I thought it would be.

Oh well, maybe in a few years I can Ebay it as the "rare" model and get big bucks for it-haha-but I'm not holding my breath. :roll:

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:11 am
by egosheep
whojamfan wrote:Hey man, can't play no "Freebird" on no 21 fret guitar man :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sheesh, I unknowingly bought what is agreed to be one of the worst Ricks ever made.

Strike 1-My 330FG isn't the new FG, but not quite "clownglo"(thank god).
Strike 2-The headstock is so enourmous that if I find myself up a creek, I at least have a paddle.
Strike 3-It came with those mud city button top pickups, and no stock .0047 cap hardwired or on a pushpull.
Strike 4-24 frets are 3 too many, pickups are too close together, and my sealed gear tuners don't cut the mustard.
I guess you can't do anything about the headstock, but why settle? Put some klusons on, and put a .0047 cap on a push pull at the 5th knob!

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:38 am
by octagon
collin wrote:Because a 24 fret Ric has 3 frets too many. (!)


Seriously, a 24 fret neck Ric is like an otherwise hot babe with a huge forehead (or some other characteristic that can be a total deal-breaker).
You mean like...


Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:42 am
by Clint
I like the 24 fret neck better on 330's and 360's. Both aesthetically and structurally. The big headstocks don't bother me either. Also, I don't really notice any enhanced harmonic content on my 21 fret 620 or 350V63, due to the pickup placement. And yes, that 24th fret has come in handy a few times.

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:00 pm
by whojamfan
egosheep wrote:
whojamfan wrote:Hey man, can't play no "Freebird" on no 21 fret guitar man :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sheesh, I unknowingly bought what is agreed to be one of the worst Ricks ever made.

Strike 1-My 330FG isn't the new FG, but not quite "clownglo"(thank god).
Strike 2-The headstock is so enourmous that if I find myself up a creek, I at least have a paddle.
Strike 3-It came with those mud city button top pickups, and no stock .0047 cap hardwired or on a pushpull.
Strike 4-24 frets are 3 too many, pickups are too close together, and my sealed gear tuners don't cut the mustard.
I guess you can't do anything about the headstock, but why settle? Put some klusons on, and put a .0047 cap on a push pull at the 5th knob!
Got the cap mod on it, installed toasters-but am trying the new hi-gains. The fact that the bigger headstock gives away when it was made, Klusons don't seem like a believable option. Besides, the existing tuners work just fine. I just find it odd that in all of the changes people wanted to see on these guitars, they add frets and make the headstock bigger, especially as particular as Rickenbackers owners are.

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:34 pm
by 1965
collin wrote:Seriously, a 24 fret neck Ric is like an otherwise hot babe with a huge forehead (or some other characteristic that can be a total deal-breaker).
I can't think of a single better way to describe it. :lol:

How they should all look:
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Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:54 pm
by collin
Heck yeah, in B&W even!

Looking killer Wes, just classic blonde combo there. :wink:

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:23 pm
by jch
That's a beauty Wes,cool pic! 8)

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:20 pm
by whojamfan
1965 wrote:
collin wrote:Seriously, a 24 fret neck Ric is like an otherwise hot babe with a huge forehead (or some other characteristic that can be a total deal-breaker).
I can't think of a single better way to describe it. :lol:

How they should all look:
Image
It's kind of odd to me that a person who is so particular about the accuracy of his instruments,(like that thread you had on the reissue basses not having what you believed to be the proper cutaways),would have what he says is a "how they should all look" guitar propped up on a Vox clone. It surprises me that you don't have a genuine early 60s top boost to go with that guitar, as it's kinda like watching an old western and seeing someone wearing wristwatch. I'm sure the amp sounds great and is well built, but just seems a little contradictory to the purist attitude that the majority of your posts have. Not trying to bust your bunyons here, just find it a little puzzling.

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:30 pm
by sloop_john_b
My worthless 2 cents: I prefer the 21-fret 360, O.S. and N.S., but the 24-fret 330.

And it's not necessarily about using frets 22-24, but making the use of 17-21 easier - and I do use those.

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:33 pm
by tennis_nick
sloop_john_b wrote:My worthless 2 cents: I prefer the 21-fret 360, O.S. and N.S., but the 24-fret 330.

And it's not necessarily about using frets 22-24, but making the use of 17-21 easier - and I do use those.
Are the necks not joined at the same spot regardless of 21 or 24 frets?

Does it have to do with the heel?

Re: Why do some of us prefer 21-fret RICs?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:34 pm
by sloop_john_b
tennis_nick wrote: Are the necks not joined at the same spot regardless of 21 or 24 frets?

Does it have to do with the heel?
For me, it's the slinkiness of the strings.