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Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:41 am
by walker
Seriously? I can't say "***?"
OK. How about: "It seriously kicks hiney!"
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:51 am
by longhouse
Heavy as a '58 Chevy!
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:25 pm
by kiramdear
Great sound, Mark! Have you ever tried a Waterstone twelver?
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:29 pm
by walker
No I haven't, Kira. I've never played a real 12-string bass. Is the Waterstone 12 the kind that Tom Peterson plays?
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:46 pm
by jingle_jangle
That's the one currently used by Tom. I built him a LS version last year...
There are pics of it on
www.12stringbass.net under Waterstone Customized Basses"...
I've got two Waterstone 12ers and a Hamer. Thick necks, one and all, but the Hamer is about 3/32" less than the Waterstones.
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:47 pm
by johnallg
jingle_jangle wrote:That's the one currently used by Tom. I built him a LS version last year...
There are pics of it on
http://www.12stringbass.net under Waterstone Customized Basses"...
I've got two Waterstone 12ers and a Hamer. Thick necks, one and all, but the Hamer is about 3/32" less than the Waterstones.
http://www.12stringbass.net/master.htm? ... ustoms.htm
I agree Paul, I doubt the 4003 necks could take it, even though this one of mine has a substantial neck for a Rick. It
would make a good 8 string candidate.

Of my 5, it is THE most stable neck. The others move with the seasons, this one does not.
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:18 pm
by walker
Cool site. That 12-string light show is wicked!
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:17 pm
by rickenbrother
I finally got around to giving that a listen. That sounds awesome, Mark!
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:02 pm
by ram
Mark that was really impressive - really 'kicks hiney'

- too bad the neck wouldn't support it that would be one hell of a sound!!! and the think about alt tunings..... maybe the tune would be a submission to RRF CD3???
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:27 am
by walker
Thanks, guys. It was fun to do, Although, I admit that as experiments go, I played this one rather conservatively. I stuck strictly with octaves since I was trying to emulate a 12-string, but the potential to go "outside the bass" is much greater. Since the three-bass method allows complete interval independence, I could have done all kinds of three-part harmonies, administered chords here & there, etc. Another project for another day, perhaps.
I won't be submitting this one for RRF CD3. It's over 8 minutes long, and a bit dark overall for something I'd care to offer. I'll have to whip up something new.
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:33 pm
by kennyhowes
Man, I'd love a 12-string bass.
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:16 pm
by jdogric12
I'd be happy just to get one of my old S/8's back!
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:17 pm
by rickenbrother
12 string basses are fun to play. They do take a bit of getting used to. They give the player a pretty good left hand work-out. If you have one that you haven't played for a while, you sort of have to get used to it again.
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:47 pm
by atomic_punk
I played one for a few years. When I went back to a "regular" bass, my left hand was bending bass strings like guitar strings!
Had to learn an lighter touch!
But the sound.....OMG...shakes the foundation of any place you are playing....it's awesome.
Re: 4001/12 project
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:17 pm
by weemac
I play 12 strings about 85% of the time, I find that once you get use to the flat finger method of playing, they feel quite comfortable under the fingers. Although they have more strings a well setup 12ver can be a fairly slick and forgiving to play.
* note: It really has to be well setup, or you will give up quickly.....
The Waterstone 12vers are probably the best option for us folks with Rickenbacker trained ears.....
And Jdog, I'd love to have one of your old S/8s as well..
emac.