"rimshot" ok mark,that was a good one,and yeah i don't like EVERYTHING phil ever did.
no problemo,everybuddy likes music their own special way,i just happen to love hearing phil play drums. bill bruford AND alan white,too......
jeffrey-i goofed on the year,i first saw them in january 1974, at the drury lane theater in london. it was the only concert i saw while pete gabriel was still in the band.
Re: hate to hear this
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:06 pm
by jps
I only saw them at various times in Cleveland, from their first time here through WAW; I saw every show they did here, even both nights of TOTL, which was a real treat to see two (Phil & Bill) average drummers play together, especially, the double drum solos.
Re: hate to hear this
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:22 am
by woodyng
i did see a (too short!)concert movie from the TOTL tour with bill,very nice,especially "cinema show". the (dual) drumming with chester on the duke tour was a treat,too .
Re: hate to hear this
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:19 pm
by ram
While I must admit that I am not a big Genisis fan since after A Trick of the Tail... I do listen to Phil's more current stuff just for the drumming. Even in the more popish modern stuff his 'skin whacking' is still leaps above most of what is out there.
Re: hate to hear this
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:34 am
by woodyng
tony,has anyone ever mentioned your avatar looks like it came off the "duke" album cover?
Re: hate to hear this
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:12 am
by ajish4
woodyng wrote:tony,has anyone ever mentioned your avatar looks like it came off the "duke" album cover?
No Woody, but I love it!
Thanks!
Re: hate to hear this
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:48 am
by kennyhowes
wayang wrote:Some of the fills on his solo albums sound like the were played by Bev Bevans with two broken arms...
Hey now! Big Move fan here...
Re: hate to hear this
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:00 pm
by collin
kennyhowes wrote:
wayang wrote:Some of the fills on his solo albums sound like the were played by Bev Bevans with two broken arms...
Hey now! Big Move fan here...
and another!!!
Re: hate to hear this
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:47 pm
by wayang
Yeah, Kenny, I liked The Move, too...I even liked ELO for the first couple of albums (before the high-frustose-corn-syrup content got too thick). But Bevans' drumming...yipes:
That tune's supposed to have a Motownish, '...Through The Grapvine' mid-tempo chugging kind of feel, but Bevans...well, let's just be kind and say he's not exactly 'in the pocket'. Maybe I was a bit harsh, but I was trying to come up with a drummer at the opposite end of the spectrum from Collins when it comes to chops and imagination. I mean, I could have said Karen Carpenter...but think of the hate mail I would've gotten then.
Here's The Move doing one of their biggest hits (I ran out and bought the '45' when it came out)...great song, nice vocal harmonies (and Roy looking like Capt. Beefheart's little brother!)...but what is Bev doing back there? Playing with mallets, for some inexplicable reason, and his technique reminds me of a guitar player sitting behind a kit and saying 'this looks easy...let me give it a go!' Be as objective as you can, and pay special attention to his 'fills' (for lack of a better term):
So.....once again, check out Collins' fills on "In The Air Tonight"...sorry, man: it's "Bev Bevans with two broken arms"...
Re: hate to hear this
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:58 pm
by kennyhowes
Sorry Dane, I don't see a thing wrong with what Bev's doing on either clip. Agree to disagree?
I also like Phil's style, for the record.
Re: hate to hear this
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:15 pm
by wayang
An emminently agreeable position, Kenny...okay, I agree...