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Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:45 pm
by johneek
Peter....my apologies for crossing the etiquette line. The point of my post was not to publicly criticize UPS. In the title I was trying to think of something witty and keep my own thoughts as positive as possible while I waited. While there are always exceptions to the rule, the people I know employed by UPS all work very hard and are as conscientious as humanly possible. One of our drummers drives a brown truck and has told me that he pretends every package he delivers is one he personally sent. That's one of my favorite examples of someone "Doing unto others...."
All that said, thanks for your gentle (as always) prompting to be careful in my choice of words.....
Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:55 pm
by admin
A big sigh of relief to be sure. I am so glad things turned out fine. We can all rest soundly now.
Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:57 pm
by wj350
As we say down here in the Easy, "Whew dat!!" Just got back from the market and had to check to see how things turned out!!
Congrats John, she looks beautiful!!
PS--ditto your comments re Brown, FedEx, DHS, and USPS--I've had good experiences and the occasional hiccup from all of them, but the percentages are way in the "plus" column.
Bill
Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:26 pm
by godber
Wow, it's always a nervous time when a guitar is delivered, but that was a scary one. For a moment I thought that the guitar was so wet it had a jelly fish stuck on it.
Nice guitar, very glad it all worked out well.

Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:12 pm
by johnallg
admin wrote:There can be no greater frustration after waiting for a parcel than to see it arrive in a compromised state. There is surely value for the receiver in photographic documentation and in understanding how to make the best out of a difficult situation.
That being said, such complaints are seen by the companies identified and they come to demand that threads be removed, not infrequently with some clout. While many people may comment, at the end of the day these parties want to have a response, not from the shipper, not from the receiver, not from those who share in the horror and comment on the injustice of it all, but from admin.
When there are documenting pictures and an unemotional explanation of the damage done by the shipper, I do not understand how they would have a leg to stand on in trying to squelch a thread. If this is their MO, then they should work on fixing their handling of packages and not send the lawyers after forum admins.

Add to that the packages left at the door that required a signature....
Add to this experience, albeit with a happy ending, the recent 1965 JG that had the neck broken off, and the people we pay really good money and entrust our precious cargo to need to reexamine how they move/handle said packages.
Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:48 pm
by paul_yan
Congratulations, John, for Rosie's being safe and sound!
I have a question for you experienced ones: Would UPS (or other service companies) people still leave the package on your front porch or back alley without even knocking your door if the shipper requested receiver's signature upon delivery?
Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:29 am
by jps
paul_yan wrote:Congratulations, John, for Rosie's being safe and sound!
I have a question for you experienced ones: Would UPS (or other service companies) people still leave the package on your front porch or back alley without even knocking your door if the shipper requested receiver's signature upon delivery?
I can confirm that this does, in fact, happen; I have first hand experience in this!

Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:20 am
by johnallg
jps wrote:paul_yan wrote:Congratulations, John, for Rosie's being safe and sound!
I have a question for you experienced ones: Would UPS (or other service companies) people still leave the package on your front porch or back alley without even knocking your door if the shipper requested receiver's signature upon delivery?
I can confirm that this does, in fact, happen; I have first hand experience in this!

Me too. I only ship to my work now as someone is there to receive/sign.
Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:40 am
by rickenbrother
Glad to see he guitar is fine, John. Congrats and enjoy it!

Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:58 am
by manta
All I can say is that I have had had virtually no problems using good ol' USPS. And I live in Guam. The private company you refer to has not been consistent at all in handling my goods. I would suggest USPS insured to get the shipping job done.
I believe the Rickenbacker corp site has a thread about this as well.
Timbo
Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:35 am
by scotty
Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:21 am
by manta
I hear they're attracted to VPs.
Jellies or no, that's a great looking axe.
Look out. They're getting closer. (loo-dee-doo-doo)
Manta
Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:03 am
by electrofaro
manta wrote:Jellies or no, that's a great looking axe.
As a non-native speaker it makes me wonder where the axe saying comes from. I'd never use THAT guitar to chop wood!
It looks, very, very, very nice, and I'm glad it's doing okay

Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:02 am
by captsandwich
johnallg wrote:jps wrote:paul_yan wrote:Congratulations, John, for Rosie's being safe and sound!
I have a question for you experienced ones: Would UPS (or other service companies) people still leave the package on your front porch or back alley without even knocking your door if the shipper requested receiver's signature upon delivery?
I can confirm that this does, in fact, happen; I have first hand experience in this!

Me too. I only ship to my work now as someone is there to receive/sign.
Thirded. I found a bass for a friend, he purchased it and had it shipped 'Signature Required' and discovered it on his back porch when he let his cat out one evening. At least they didn't leave it on the front porch, considering it was a replacement for one that was stolen.
Re: UPS is Going to be the Death of Me....
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:25 am
by cjj
Here, in Montana, Next door to the Middle of Nowhere, Bob, the UPS guy just brings it into the house if we're not around. Same thing with Terri for Fed-Ex...