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Folkie wrote:Jim K.,

I just learned "My Back Pages" at breakneck speed and it sounds pretty good! Now I'll have to embellish the solo to make it my own. It's nice to learn a Byrds song that (as far as I can tell) doesn't have a very complicated fingerstyle pattern. As you know, I am new to fingerstyle guitar.

Robert

A great finger-style 12-string solo for My Back Pages is the one Roger uses on the "Live from Spain" CD. It's a fast-moving syncopated rhythm played primarily on the G string, and it's very effective. Of the dozens of times I've seen him live, he's only played that solo once that I can recall, so the CD is a terrific reference. I play that solo myself all the time, so it's really not all that hard to learn.

Could I find that "Live from Spain" CD on Amazon?

Robert

I do "My Back Pages" in C w/ no capo. The lower key is good for a first set opener. It was "The Bells of Rhymney" that made me want to play a 12-string.

kennyhowes wrote:Bigger pics here too:
http://www.rickenbacker.me.uk/www.ricke ... eries.html

Hey, Kenny----just saw your post with the Rick pix---thank you so much.....that double-neck is a treasure...
I gotta ask ya, or James or anybody that knows internet music---can I post an MP3 of my version of 8 Miles High, streaming only, on my MySpace site without being dragged outta my house and beaten by music biz goons, or being hit with a lawsuit?

I'm just axin'......I'd like RRF members to hear it and see what they think.....

vynesmusic wrote:I gotta ask ya, or James or anybody that knows internet music---can I post an MP3 of my version of 8 Miles High, streaming only, on my MySpace site without being dragged outta my house and beaten by music biz goons, or being hit with a lawsuit?

I'm just axin'......I'd like RRF members to hear it and see what they think.....

Technically, it's a copyright violation — even for non-commercial use. But would it result in a lawsuit? Highly unlikely. All that would probably happen is that the copyright holder or licensing agent would notify MySpace to take it down.

Roger McGuinn recently put a non-commercial video on YouTube that contained a bit of John Coltrane music, and Warner Music Group (or Universal Music Group) had it taken down. Same thing happened with his "Trees Are All Gone" video. My point is that the copyright police are out there, and even heavyweight artists like McGuinn can get their wrists slapped.

I'd post your 8MH MP3 and see what happens.

THANKS, janglebox....I appreciate your info and your reply----trying to get anything from myspace is like breaking into Area 51's chat room...... don't ask........

I'll probably do it and get my hand slapped....the geeks running that site don't even know who the Byrds or the Beatles are...they don't even know what music is anymore...I said it, I meant it....that might be my saving grace

sigh. wish i could play naturally. i am the worst musician on the planet, but IF i could, i'd play "what's happening?"

At this point the only one Im actually playing all the way thru on a regular basis is "Tulsa County Blue"...which is not a real typical 12 string Ric Byrd song...altho the ric works well on the version on the Boston tea Party bootleg... it seems enough folks recognize the tune that it goes over well when we play it... and often there will be one or two guitar players trying to figure out how Im doing the stringbender parts...We used to do "Ballad of Easy Rider" like Tom Petty did it, with strummed 12 string sus chords all over but that, and "Time Between" have fallen off the set list, at least for now...

When Im just noodling Ill play "She Dont Care About Time"..or "Set you free this time"...or "5D" .....or "Wasnt Born to Follow"...

kennyhowes wrote: http://www.rickenbacker.me.uk/www.ricke ... es.html#15

That's Kenny, ordering four beers for the saw mill !

Don Miller wrote:At this point the only one Im actually playing all the way thru on a regular basis is "Tulsa County Blue"...which is not a real typical 12 string Ric Byrd song...altho the ric works well on the version on the Boston tea Party bootleg... it seems enough folks recognize the tune that it goes over well when we play it... and often there will be one or two guitar players trying to figure out how Im doing the stringbender parts...We used to do "Ballad of Easy Rider" like Tom Petty did it, with strummed 12 string sus chords all over but that, and "Time Between" have fallen off the set list, at least for now...

When Im just noodling Ill play "She Dont Care About Time"..or "Set you free this time"...or "5D" .....or "Wasnt Born to Follow"...

WOW---how can I get in your band?......it's my dream to play in a working band that does Byrds, Beatles, Kinks, Hollies, Yardbirds....<sigh>

The band I'm in tried Beatles, with me on the ol' 360-12, but the kids in the crowd, you know the 19-30 somethings, waxed moronic and sat there nursing their Yup-drinks........what..........ever.....

When I mess with my 12, I go right to Bells of Rhymney.......can't resist it....

Actually the Byrds stuff is a very small piece of our set list...currently just Tulsa County...our setlist is- for the most part archtypical old guy classic rock-country-blues stuff. We are currently looking for a guitar player...which might be a plus because one reason our ex-guitar player quit was that he really didnt want to learn any new songs...if you wanna join all you have to do is move to Alaska.....and were arent working that much so youll need a day job,,,...once or twice a month at a joint in Wasilla...and dontcha dare play "Lying Eyes" and dedicate it to you know who or they'll kick your butt, you betcha......and thats on hold until we get back up to speed...

Im actually looking forward to working with a new player...and 99.9% of the time Id play a tele with a stringbender...my tastes run to a large part to the cosmic cowboy Byrds, etc..but its occurred to me that this might be an opportunity to pull out my Ric-12 and compressor for a change...

ALASKA!.....God bless ya......have to pass on that, I guess, tho moving away from the lower 48 looks better the older I get....I think I'll move to Atlantis....

I'm in a 3 piece old-guy band too, and we play the same stuff you cats play, and the young girls, for the most part, love it. One thing about being a musician, you got to please the ladies....the guys don't count....if the girls get up and dance, then there's a party and a big smile on the club owner's face, and the guys get to stumble up and join the dancing. Watching guys dance is NOT as good as watching the girls, but it is funnier....

I was in an all Byrd/Beatle band in college, playing bass.....that's the music I miss, and don't get to play as much as I would like.....there are kids here in the DEEP south that don't know what a Beatle is, musician or car......

Thanks for the reply, and BYRD on......

Don Miller wrote: dontcha dare play "Lying Eyes" and dedicate it to you know who or they'll kick your butt, you betcha......and thats on hold until we get back up to speed...

....I LOVE Sarah Palin, BTW.....it's my right as an American....for the time being.....

BTW.....it's my right as an American....for the time being.....

Dont sweat it..no one's gonna take the right to love a mean hearted woman away...it'd be the end of blues music as we know it...

Now back to our regularly scheduled topic before we get into trouble...

I actually just think she's HOT

.....please accept this much delayed reply as an apology to the Forum for seemingly going POL-lytical.....

I have noticed a great reaction to "Mr. Tambourine Man" when my classic rock band plays the song...then I inevitably get the request for "Turn Turn Turn".....which I can play, but the band cannot....literally...the song is too hard for them....

We also play "Ticket to Ride", "8 Days a Week", "Hard Day's Night" and "I Wanna Hold Yer Hand", and, sadly, the frenzied reactions we used to get with those tunes decrease as the crowds get younger......

Honestly.....the industrial computer generated garbage some of these peeps want to hear.....