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wings012345 wrote:Sounds like wiring. Pickups out of Phase? I had a fender that acted like that. I believed i switched the hot and ground wires on one of the volume pots. Something like that. just reversed the two wires. For me they were out of Phase.
...it's not enough to be out of phase, but it's still a considerable loss of volume. If it would have been out of phase it would probably not work in the pushed position as well, but here the sound is full an rich. The cap in (pulled position) does not only cut of the bass, but also lowers the volume? :shock: I wonder!!! :roll:
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The red wires from the shorting switch to the pickup switch and the wire to the pot that was on the pup switch looks weird. It looks like a loose wire end just to the left of the green cap. Can you get a good pic of that or draw a pic of how it is wired?
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Jim Dandy wrote:What could cause a stock unmodified 4003 to have a very low and thin volume in all switch positions (compared to another 4003 through the same rig), with both the bass and treble tone controls acting as volume controls (instead of tone controls), and the push-pull switch not to work? Both of the volume controls and the 3 way switch seem to be working ok. Both pickups are giving sound, but I can't tell much more than that about them.
If the volume is down and both the volume and the tone knobs are acting like volume knobs, you may have open coils in the pickups, which are then functioning only on inductance, not as a complete circuit. Carefully unsolder the hot leads, one at a time so you don't forget where they go, from the selector switch and measure the dc resistance of each of the coils. If you don't have something steady in the 8 to 12 kohm range (for example, if it's higher or lower than that, or if the reading won't stabilize, or if it goes to infinite ohms) then you have pickup coil problems and may need to replace the pickups.
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heinpete wrote:The cap in (pulled position) does not only cut of the bass, but also lowers the volume?
Yes, that part of it is normal.
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Thnx Scott, so everything is normal! :D It's just because I played my Rick the last years with all pots at "eleven" :lol: , but last week suddenly realized, :roll: there are some "interactions" between push/pull, volumes and tones if you really use them. :lol:
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heinpete wrote:Thnx Scott, so everything is normal! :D It's just because I played my Rick the last years with all pots at "eleven" :lol: , but last week suddenly realized, :roll: there are some "interactions" between push/pull, volumes and tones if you really use them. :lol:
You're welcome. Think about it: the .0047 capacitor is a high-pass capacitor. When switched in, it's kind of like turning your bass knob on your amp down from about 7 down to about 1 1/2. When you do that, it does lower the overall volume somewhat as well on the amp.
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iiipopes wrote:...Think about it: the .0047 capacitor is a high-pass capacitor. When switched in, it's kind of like turning your bass knob on your amp down from about 7 down to about 1 1/2. When you do that, it does lower the overall volume somewhat as well on the amp.
:roll: ...theorethically, I was aware of that, but I thought it would be less drastically! :shock:
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