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Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:32 pm
by gearhed289
jamespaul71 wrote:Here is the proof:

Here is the 5th fret on the D string:
Image

At left is Paul, in the middle is me with bridge full tone and solo, and last is me with the neck full tone and solo.


It is quite clear that the tone is a rickenbacker, that it is from the bridge pickup, and that it sounds great. Now, back to the question!
Is it just me, or is this getting a little stalkerish? :lol:

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:50 pm
by teeder
:lol:

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:55 pm
by jamespaul71
gearhed289 wrote:
jamespaul71 wrote:Here is the proof:

Here is the 5th fret on the D string:
Image

At left is Paul, in the middle is me with bridge full tone and solo, and last is me with the neck full tone and solo.


It is quite clear that the tone is a rickenbacker, that it is from the bridge pickup, and that it sounds great. Now, back to the question!
Is it just me, or is this getting a little stalkerish? :lol:
Not really, it was a pretty simple experiment and I was curious.

Cassius, the pattern of harmonics is rough but pretty revealing. The toaster was clearly not of the same signature, the bridge higain clearly is. Examine the frequencies of the peaks, and you will plainly see which was the proper match.

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:27 pm
by cassius987
jamespaul71 wrote:Cassius, the pattern of harmonics is rough but pretty revealing. The toaster was clearly not of the same signature, the bridge higain clearly is. Examine the frequencies of the peaks, and you will plainly see which was the proper match.
I know the point you're trying to make, but it would be a lot easier to analyze the minute differences if everything was on the same graph. As it is right now you can draw conclusions but it'd be much easier to make finer contrasts using a shared Y-axis.

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:59 pm
by maplered
jayfbv wrote:I was under the impression that he had a backup to the one he carved up. I can't produce a picture of it, but I know I've seen one.
He had another 4001 in the 70's but it looks like a fretless version.

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:51 pm
by jamespaul71
cassius987 wrote:
jamespaul71 wrote:Cassius, the pattern of harmonics is rough but pretty revealing. The toaster was clearly not of the same signature, the bridge higain clearly is. Examine the frequencies of the peaks, and you will plainly see which was the proper match.
I know the point you're trying to make, but it would be a lot easier to analyze the minute differences if everything was on the same graph. As it is right now you can draw conclusions but it'd be much easier to make finer contrasts using a shared Y-axis.
Well it wasn't about minute differences, they were wildly different. If the differences were less pronounced then an overlay may have been more useful. Additionally, the values are always a bit off since the there is variable decay and resonance that isn't capable of being described in a single image. I hope you see what I am trying to get it, I understand your point but it isn't worth the time or effort because of the variables and because the differences are so pronounced already. Ok enough on this point :D

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:00 pm
by cassius987
Sorry Jimmy, just some constructive criticism from a guy who is always looking at graphs...

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:17 pm
by antipodean
maplered wrote:
antipodean wrote:
sloop_john_b wrote:I believe Paul's bass was at Electro for repair in August '75, at the start of the Wings Over America tour. "Silly Love Songs" was released in April 1976. That bass tone is pure bridge position higain. 8)
Without the cap....
It sounds like it has the cap. It's definitely a thinner sound.
My '74 4000 does a perfect rendition of the "Silly Love Songs" sound.. My '74 4001 with the treble soloed sounds far too thin. The pickups were wound to around 7kohms back then, so a '74 hi-gain without the cap would still sound way thinner than a recent higain (without the cap). Then again, with enough eq, I guess anything is possible.

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:59 pm
by johnallg
ken_j wrote:According to Mark Arnquist: "The P.M. bass came back to the factory prior to the 'Wings over America tour.' " Link: http://www.thecanteen.com/arnquist.html
Didn't JH and DF also relate the visitation story over on the corporate forum too?

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:34 am
by ken_j
johnallg wrote:
ken_j wrote:According to Mark Arnquist: "The P.M. bass came back to the factory prior to the 'Wings over America tour.' " Link: http://www.thecanteen.com/arnquist.html
Didn't JH and DF also relate the visitation story over on the corporate forum too?
I not aware and wouldn't know as I never visit the corporate forum.