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Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:41 pm
by scott_s
fabandgear wrote:I didn't realize Rickenbacker ever used zero frets! I've owned and played tons of Gretsch guitars and have never found the zero fret to be undesirable. I've heard the argument that folks who do a lot of string bending complain about them, but It's never been an issue for me. It is nice not to have to be at the mercy of a delicate nut for first position string action. Besides, I shouldn't think it would even an issue with bassists (funny, my Gretsch '63 6070 bass doesn't have a zero fret!)
Well, they
didn't... at some point, Paul McCartney had his 4001 modified with a zero-fret (to be more like his Hofners?), and Rickenbacker followed suit when they produced the 4001C64S.
As for the string-bending, I can see that -- a low-cut nut makes it harder to bend "under" adjacent strings. Come to think of it, I wonder how much of the "Ricks aren't good for lead" stigma comes from the traditional setup -- low action, low nut, and no neck relief. Hmmm...
- Scott
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:44 pm
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
there's a 4005/8 in smiths book with a zero fret. don't know if that is original to the bass.
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:20 pm
by jps
That 4005/8 also happens to be a medium scale bass.
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:25 pm
by Casiraghi22
Im selling my bass on ebay. It doesn't have the horsepickup because it could not be fixed. what should I do my Rick brothers? should I let it go or buy a High Gain bridge pickup at Rickenbacker website? please advice me!!
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:59 pm
by daveman
fabandgear wrote:I've heard the argument that folks who do a lot of string bending complain about them, but It's never been an issue for me.
Those would most likely be geetar players. I don't think it would be an issue for 99.9% of bass players.
And I will chime in with: Don't do it! If you don't like the zero fret (& I'm not sure why), sell the bass -- unmolested.
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:53 pm
by jps
Casiraghi22 wrote:Im selling my bass on ebay. It doesn't have the horsepickup because it could not be fixed. what should I do my Rick brothers? should I let it go or buy a High Gain bridge pickup at Rickenbacker website? please advice me!!
Are you saying that you are selling it without a bridge pickup or that you want to buy a new hi-gain to keep the bass for yourself or to sell complete?
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:04 pm
by johnallg
Casiraghi22 wrote:Im selling my bass on ebay. It doesn't have the horsepickup because it could not be fixed. what should I do my Rick brothers? should I let it go or buy a High Gain bridge pickup at Rickenbacker website? please advice me!!
What happened to the horseshoe pickup that it can't be fixed??
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:09 pm
by paologregorio
Aren't most of the RI HS p/ups hi gain coils with non-magnetic/for looks only "shoes"?
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:22 pm
by jps
The RI HS PUs have a totally different design, the shoes notwithstanding, compared to hi-gains. Instead of a rubber bar magnet and polepieces as the hi-gains have, the RI HS PUs have AlNiCo magnet slugs in place of the polepieces.
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:07 pm
by johnallg
jps wrote:The RI HS PUs have a totally different design, the shoes notwithstanding, compared to hi-gains. Instead of a rubber bar magnet and polepieces as the hi-gains have, the RI HS PUs have AlNiCo magnet slugs in place of the polepieces.
Also different coil form and shape/size.
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:48 pm
by jps
johnallg wrote:Also different coil form and shape/size.
Well, I didn't want to be an:
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:48 pm
by jps
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:20 pm
by Casiraghi22
well while I was trying to take the shoes off the pickup unglud itself. I can see the orange wires in the inside. I quess the screws under where long that it came off. the repair man said it need to be replaced. Im selling now on ebay. its a 4001c64s in Jetglo. I need all of your advices my Rick brothers. should I buy a high gain pickup?
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:43 pm
by johnallg
Casiraghi22 wrote:well while I was trying to take the shoes off the pickup unglud itself. I can see the orange wires in the inside. I quess the screws under where long that it came off. the repair man said it need to be replaced. Im selling now on ebay. its a 4001c64s in Jetglo. I need all of your advices my Rick brothers. should I buy a high gain pickup?
Actually a current higain bridge pickup will sound almost the same as the reissue horseshoe pickup did. If you decide to go with the higain, PM me.
Re: Zero Fret
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:01 pm
by Casiraghi22
johnallg wrote:Casiraghi22 wrote:well while I was trying to take the shoes off the pickup unglud itself. I can see the orange wires in the inside. I quess the screws under where long that it came off. the repair man said it need to be replaced. Im selling now on ebay. its a 4001c64s in Jetglo. I need all of your advices my Rick brothers. should I buy a high gain pickup?
Actually a current higain bridge pickup will sound almost the same as the reissue horseshoe pickup did. If you decide to go with the higain, PM me.
Really? then whats the whole fuss about having a Horseshoe pickup?
