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Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:13 pm
by cassius987
jdogric12 wrote:The Bass VI is awesome!!! You deserve a good glove slap to the face for that Josh! :lol:
:oops: I'd love to hear some good clips of one, or play one myself. So far all I've heard was utter dreck... And generally by people who've done good clips in the past so I wasn't going to attribute my dislike of it to the audio engineering.

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:48 pm
by jingle_jangle
Well, Carol Kaye was known for doubling her bass parts on some Beach Boys songs with a Bass VI.

If memory serves me, "The Little Girl I Once Knew" is a good example. So are "Dance, Dance, Dance" and "I Get Around". All played on a '63 Bass VI.

If "Back in the USSR" is your only reference for sound, you're in for a treat.

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:31 pm
by rickenbrother
The bass line in the Aerosmith song "Back In The Saddle" on the Rocks album was done on a Fender Bass VI.

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:25 pm
by johnallg
Should have finished the headstock all JetGlo. Otherwise, interesting.

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:31 pm
by ilan
jingle_jangle wrote:Well, Carol Kaye was known for doubling her bass parts on some Beach Boys songs with a Bass VI.

If memory serves me, "The Little Girl I Once Knew" is a good example. So are "Dance, Dance, Dance" and "I Get Around". All played on a '63 Bass VI.

If "Back in the USSR" is your only reference for sound, you're in for a treat.
We can always ask her (link to Carol's forum) but I think she has never doubled a bass part, in fact, she was proud that she could achieve the "tic tac" sound and the deep bottom of an upright in one take with her P bass, Fender medium gauge flats, a hard pick, and a mute over the bridge. She did own a 6-string bass, but it was a Danelectro, not a Fender VI.

Here's a post by Carol from dec. '00:
Posted by Carol on December 30, 2000 at 17:28:52:

In Reply to: For Carol Kaye: Questions about tic-tac bass posted by Robby Garner on December 26, 2000 at 19:08:02:

Hi Robby. I had to customize the Dano by replacing the bridges, the strings, and the pickups so it could get a good recording sound - replace the strings too. It's not really a quality instrument at all.

I played Dano on a few things, but notably "The In Crowd" with Dobie Gray....you have to palm-mute the Dano all the time to get that clicky sound (but keep the lows on your amp as well as some mid-range, and some highs too). I don't remember what pickups I had installed on them both (back in the 60s) now...they were the hot pickups of that time. You can hear the real sound of it with the solo Glen Campbell played on it on "Wichita Lineman" (he borrowed my Dano right there on the date to cut his famous solo). He also used my Dano on another hit, think it was Galveston.

Interestingly enough, Barney Kessel probably did more Dano work than I did....and it was Bill Pitman who first popularized the Dano in the LA recording scene. It was called the "bass guitar", the only instrument to be called that. The Elec. Bass was called the "Fender Bass" back then. Happy New Year!

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:35 pm
by wints
What's this guitar doing in the bass section? :lol:

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:38 pm
by ilan
BTW I have owned two 6-string basses - a Fender VI and a 1960 Dano. Once the novelty wore off, they collected dust, and eventually I sold them. Two very different basses. The Fender could be used as a normal bass if you played the bottom 4 strings. The Dano could only be used for "tic tac" doubling of "real" bass, or as a baritone guitar. The Fender didn't excel in tic-tac tones, but it had a whammy bar which was a lot of fun. It was well-built and very comfortable. The Dano wasn't.

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:29 pm
by cassius987
jingle_jangle wrote:If "Back in the USSR" is your only reference for sound, you're in for a treat.
Actually it wasn't a reference--I don't know the Beatles very well and refuse to keep track of what Paul played when, kind of like how I feel about Geddy. It's just not information I care to know. The other issue is, I don't think I can remember what that song sounds like.

Most of my limited experience with the Bass VI comes out of YouTube; there are a lot of good members who post nice sound clips of vintage instruments to give people an idea, and every now and then going through someone's clips I run into a Bass VI. It's never "done it" for me but hey, there's a first time for everything. It's not me being anti-Fender as I love me a good Precision Bass. I'm suspicious of the 4005/6 as well.

Speaking of YouTube there are some pretty darn amazing Ric guitar clips by some of these vintage gear people; Ric guitars seem to be like Ric basses to me after watching those videos--people all say they sound one way but it seems like they can do just about anything. A 1957 300-something was on one of the last ones I saw, sounding just like... Eric Clapton's Strat? Whoa.

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:31 pm
by FretlessOnly
cassius987 wrote:
jingle_jangle wrote:If "Back in the USSR" is your only reference for sound, you're in for a treat.
Actually it wasn't a reference--I don't know the Beatles very well and refuse to keep track of what Paul played when...
One thing's for sure, Paul didn't play bass on Back in the USSR. Both Walter Everett and William Dowlding indicate that Lennon played the Fender VI and George played a Fender Jazz bass. So, maybe BITUSSR isn't the best example of a bass VI.

More info you didn't need to know! :wink:

I've got a Ken Smith 6-string FL that I use often and sounds and plays great. The string spacing is similar to most 4-strings - the nut is more than 2" wide. Love it.

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:43 pm
by Tarrbot
wints wrote:What's this guitar doing in the bass section? :lol:
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What's this guitar doing in my bass?

What's this bass doing in my guitar?

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Actually, if I had known about it before it sold, I might've bid on this.

I like how it looks and probably would've loved trying to play it.

Unfortunately, the more sane side of me would've told me that I'd rather have had a fretless 4 than a fretted 6.

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:50 pm
by cjj
rickenbrother wrote:Poor thing started off life very happy with 4 strings.
Fortunately, it also started life as a JetGlo...
:twisted:

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:08 pm
by rickenbrother
cjj wrote:
rickenbrother wrote:Poor thing started off life very happy with 4 strings.
Fortunately, it also started life as a JetGlo...
:twisted:
:evil: May all your Ricks be Jetglo! :twisted: :P :lol: :mrgreen:
Tony's too! :P :lol: :mrgreen:

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:21 pm
by ajish4
rickenbrother wrote: :evil: May all your Ricks be Jetglo! :twisted: :P :lol: :mrgreen:
Tony's too! :P :lol: :mrgreen:
If you were closer, I'd throw rocks at you! :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:37 pm
by rickenbrother
ajish4 wrote:
rickenbrother wrote: :evil: May all your Ricks be Jetglo! :twisted: :P :lol: :mrgreen:
Tony's too! :P :lol: :mrgreen:
If you were closer, I'd throw rocks at you! :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your back must be feeling better today! :mrgreen:
Funny though that you should say that. For about an hour or so today, there was a particular venue's windows that I wanted to go throw rocks at! :twisted:

Re: 4001 six?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:54 pm
by ajish4
rickenbrother wrote: Your back must be feeling better today! :mrgreen:
Funny though that you should say that. For about an hour or so today, there was a particular venue's windows that I wanted to go throw rocks at! :twisted:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

....and you're right! :mrgreen: