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Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:06 pm
by egosheep
antipodean wrote:
I was thinking of those chords where you combine notes higher on the neck with open strings to get those closely spaced jangly chords. You need a capo to get these voicings in F#....
With a bit more thought I realised there are, of course some similar chords in F# in standard tuning as the open E and B are diatonic to the scale. Just not the voicings I'm used to in E, A or D....
Having only recently adopted a capo I'm a bit overenthusiastic about their application!!!
I love my capos as well!
Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:27 pm
by jimk
I've been experimenting with this lately.
It works well on six string guitars, not so well on 12 string guitars. The little fingers tend to pinch each pair of strings together in a fashion I don't like. I'd like to find a capo that will only cover four pairs of strings on my Rick. A banjo capo is too large for this. The Shubb partial capo only covers 3 pair of strings.
JimK
Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:53 pm
by jdogric12
Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:08 pm
by jimk
Sorry about that, Jdog.
JimK
Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:50 am
by buchrob
Jdog, at least you won't have to deal with the lawsuits concerning necks with indentations on the sides, discoloration of the binding due to frequent use, or some guy putting his eye out when a string broke as he moved a wonky lever.
Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:48 am
by jdogric12
They would be welcome to sue me and take any part of my debts they like!
Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:20 pm
by Ilikewater
I believe the comment about the extra 100 lbs of pressure John made was in regards to taking 6 off of a 12 string and converting to "Nashville tuning/stringing," not so much tuning it up a whole tone. Stick with light strings and adjust the truss and you should be fine.
Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:56 pm
by egosheep
Ilikewater wrote:I believe the comment about the extra 100 lbs of pressure John made was in regards to taking 6 off of a 12 string and converting to "Nashville tuning/stringing," not so much tuning it up a whole tone. Stick with light strings and adjust the truss and you should be fine.
I think it would be ok, too. Even with 10's, the pressure of F# on the neck has to be less than the pressure of another 6 strings tuned to standard pitch.
Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:48 am
by Jonesey
I've taken my Jazzmaster a whole step up with no problems - even with 10's and 11's. But don't try it with old strings unless you have a new set for backup.
Havn't tried it with my Rick though, but gonna try it when I get cash for extra strings. But I retune constantly and never had a problem except old strings.
Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:56 am
by s4001
egosheep wrote:I'm not really jonesing to do it myself. I'm asking because while doing some Smiths research, I've noticed that Johnny Marr played a lot of his guitars this way. It's common knowledge that he played a lot in F#, but I never realized how many guitars used live, tuned up that way without a capo: His early Gretsch, his 330, his '59 ES355, his '72 and '85 Les Pauls and his green Tele. It was a little surprising. It would certainly give me pause to tune a vintage 355 up that way!
Go to Youtube and email the Primrose League guy. He seems to have his Smiths down.
Re: Tuning up a whole step?
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:40 pm
by egosheep
s4001 wrote:egosheep wrote:I'm not really jonesing to do it myself. I'm asking because while doing some Smiths research, I've noticed that Johnny Marr played a lot of his guitars this way. It's common knowledge that he played a lot in F#, but I never realized how many guitars used live, tuned up that way without a capo: His early Gretsch, his 330, his '59 ES355, his '72 and '85 Les Pauls and his green Tele. It was a little surprising. It would certainly give me pause to tune a vintage 355 up that way!
Go to Youtube and email the Primrose League guy. He seems to have his Smiths down.
I know Daniel, but when I say "Smiths Research", I'm talking about serious geek territory. I run
Smiths On Guitar.
