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Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:44 pm
by aceonbass
I talked to Richard a little while ago on these. When I called they were out of the 10 or so they had been shipped. He told me to go ahead and place an order so that I'd be in the que for the next batch. He told me they will also come complete with surround. Since I have a newly restored original surround for my '64, I'll be selling the surround for sure.

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:04 pm
by jdogric12
Thanks D. Any guess on when the next batch will arrive?

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:04 pm
by teeder
Ordered me one for a project that's almost finished... perfect timing!
Hey ... me too!

I got a C64 tailpiece a couple weeks ago also! :mrgreen:

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:29 pm
by aceonbass
Actually, the pickups are made in house, and only 10 or so were assembled for this run. Parts are in stock for maybe 40-50 more which should be assembled in the next week or so. After that, additional parts will have to be made, which could take several weeks or more.

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:42 pm
by egosheep
This is great news. :D

I just wish they could hold a charge!

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:57 pm
by RobRick
woodyng wrote:And a reasonable price compared to the past frenzy,too! yep,Jeff, you shoulda! I wanted to try one for my 4000,but have come to realize the Higain needs to stay in there,it sounds too good to replace.
I feel the same way about my 4000, I am keeping the Higain, as that is how it was made and it really is a special tone.

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:53 pm
by s4001
:shock: :mrgreen: :D :mrgreen: :D :mrgreen: :D :twisted: :mrgreen: :D

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:43 pm
by johnallg
Well, the day finally came. Interesting about the windings. My C64 horsey is around 10.5k IIRC, maybe 11k.

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:52 pm
by ricmic
Are these pups the reissue style horseshoe or the old style with magnetized shoes? Mark

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:58 pm
by aceonbass
The RIHS pickups are the modern ones with magnetic poles and non-magnetic shoes. They're probably a more stable pickup in the long run.

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:28 am
by FretlessOnly
mikko wrote:Wow...this is something I've been waiting for. If only those would be available for us who live outside of US...
How this modern horseshoe work in 4003 when "vintage tone" circuit is bypassed?
I don't think anyone addressed this, and I'm also wondering: will these work nicely on a 4003 with the push/pull pot? To add one more question: how would these match up output-wise with a fairly new (1 year-old) reissue toaster?

One of the H/S PUs might be nice on my MID FL.

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:23 am
by weemac
gearhed289 wrote:Nice. I just ordered one for the heck of it. Maybe put it on my 8 string.
And they sound good in one!

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:44 am
by Wiker
FretlessOnly wrote:
mikko wrote:Wow...this is something I've been waiting for. If only those would be available for us who live outside of US...
How this modern horseshoe work in 4003 when "vintage tone" circuit is bypassed?
I don't think anyone addressed this, and I'm also wondering: will these work nicely on a 4003 with the push/pull pot? To add one more question: how would these match up output-wise with a fairly new (1 year-old) reissue toaster?
Maybe those Americans will buy up the lot, and sell them to us outsiders for double the price. :lol:

I think it sounds great with the push-pull. Sounds great by it self with the cap bypassed. I don’t know how it is in combination with a modern, hot high gain in the neck. With a 7.4K toaster the horseshoe at 10.5K was too hot for my liking, and I "had to" unwind it to about 8.5K.
The reissue horseshoe uses alnico slugs as pole pieces, just like the toaster. What I particularly hear with the toaster is sort of a compressing effect in that it’s not as sensitive to how the strings are played. Not completely insensitive of course, but sort of as having a built in compressor. High gains in my ears have a more pronounced attack. It might have something to do with the neck position, but I read somewhere that alnico slugs as pole pieces have a compressing effect, so might also have something to do with that. If so then the RI HS may have a similar effect, but I never listened for it so I can’t say (and I don’t have the RI HS in at the moment, so can’t try).

Well, just my personal observations. Anyone else hear it this way?

A real, magnetic horseshoe is very different. Not so much the tone maybe, but how it responds to the way strings are played. Normal gentle picking it plays and purrs nicely, but give just a bit more and it growls, almost roars, even with flats. With a real horseshoe, finally I understand what people mean by "the Rick growl".
In this Stranglers tune put up by Mikko, the intro bars when the bass first comes in sound very much like how a real horseshoe growls (I think) viewtopic.php?p=668982#p668982

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:24 am
by henry5
mikko wrote:Wow...this is something I've been waiting for. If only those would be available for us who live outside of US...
How come they aren't? Are there plans for them to be? Not that I'll be buying one to be honest...

Re: Horseshoes Available

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:47 am
by T.A.R.
I can't wait to see and hear the creativity that comes out of this! 8)